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G0hme
Illusion of Flight
#21 - 2012-08-17 21:10:02 UTC
If you wanna be a public figure, even in a spaceship game, either deal with it or don't run for office.......

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#22 - 2012-08-17 21:11:37 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Mintchip wrote:
Look, I was talking about how they shouldn't reveal real names. Not that they were going to. They already do.

Read up on stuff before you make a completely worthless topic, I linked plenty of reading in my video.

xoxo Mint


Are you addressing the OP's topic as being " a completely worthless topic" ?
Because (s)he was in complete agreement with you.
If you are addressing a different post I suggest quoting it next time.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-08-17 21:18:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
I don't think a players real life information should ever be revealed. This game contains some of the most ruthless human beings on the planet when it comes to things like RMT and egos. Say or do anything that will hurt their RMT operation and or ego and they will take out of game action against you.

We have already seen what mentally unstable people are capable of. Next thing you know we will have everything from fork stabbings to convincing other players cause the death of an individual.
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-08-17 21:20:47 UTC
Mintchip wrote:
Look, I was talking about how they shouldn't reveal real names. Not that they were going to. They already do.

Read up on stuff before you make a completely worthless topic, I linked plenty of reading in my video.

xoxo Mint


For trips to Iceland and input on the direction of this game they damn well better be revealing their real names.
Rory Orlenard
Eve Pilots Revolutionary Army
#25 - 2012-08-17 21:33:11 UTC
Revealing ones name and address on the web should qualify one for nuclear defensive capabilities.

As it is now we play the "I'm lucky and it won't happen to me" game if one reveals that information.


Hope Mintchip starts playing again because the topics must be from from an age gone by but she's cute and makes video.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#26 - 2012-08-17 21:34:10 UTC
If i ever made a MMO, the official fourms would display the first name of players along with their character's name and also would be accessible to know how many characters are associated to that account, and their names.

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Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-08-17 21:36:16 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
If i ever made a MMO, the official fourms would display the first name of players along with their character's name and also would be accessible to know how many characters are associated to that account, and their names.


I support this actually.
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
#28 - 2012-08-17 21:56:23 UTC
It's known when you run for CSM that your name will be released. If you don't want that then don't run. Having transparency within a program that was created because of the lack of transparency in CCP makes sense.
Mintchip
Catocalypse Meow
ZOMBIE KITTY FORCE
#29 - 2012-08-17 22:11:26 UTC
I believe that it's important the real name is given to CCP for legal purposes, but real name to the gaming community, isn't necessary. While I believe CCP will be very responsible with the information, anyone past that is seriously unaccountable for what they do with the information.

xoxo

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-08-17 22:22:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Mintchip wrote:
I believe that it's important the real name is given to CCP for legal purposes, but real name to the gaming community, isn't necessary.

You can send any gaming journalist to a Mark "Seleene" Heard or an Alexander "The Mittani" Gianturco for comments but asking them to attribute a statement to "Seleene" or "The Mittani" goes against journalistic best practices and will require a lot of convincing (you always attribute sources by name - unless your article places them in harm's way).

A CSM without (public) real names would be less useful to CCP in this regard.

.
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
#31 - 2012-08-17 22:28:30 UTC
Plus the amount of people that actually follow CSM or follow it close enough to find the actual names is very small to be of much concern. Mainly because the CSM historically is a joke. Though the past few years seem to have been decent.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#32 - 2012-08-17 22:31:04 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Mintchip wrote:
I believe that it's important the real name is given to CCP for legal purposes, but real name to the gaming community, isn't necessary.

You can send any gaming journalist to a Mark "Seleene" Heard or an Alexander "The Mittani" Gianturco for comments but asking them to attribute a statement to "Seleene" or "The Mittani" goes against journalistic best practices and will require a lot of convincing (you always attribute sources by name - unless your article places them in harm's way).

A CSM without (public) real names would be less useful to CCP in this regard.


I disagree... every article out there that mentions CCP Devs uses the "CCP Whateveah" nicknames. If devs real names are protected (insert t20 incident here), player's real names should be protected as well.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Ginger Barbarella
#33 - 2012-08-17 22:34:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginger Barbarella
I've got no problem with CSM's being as "anonymous" as they choose to be. However, if they begin to show the stunning lack of character that people such as the disgraced lawyer did, I would hope CCP would "out" them in all their deserved glory in order to keep the stink of their actions off the company.

Besides, aren't their names clearly announced in their candidacies? I seem to recall seeing the names of all of them in the last couple elections.

Edit: haven't seen Mintchip's latest video; I only tend to watch her do her EveO stuff a couple times a year. Belly button lint is more exciting than her videos.

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Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-08-17 22:38:52 UTC
To be honest i'd be disappointed if i ran for CSM and someone didn't either

A) Make a threat on my life
B) ****-talk me to my employer
C) Send severed heads of small animals to my house
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-08-17 22:42:44 UTC
Releasing a players real name as incentive for them to behave while on the CSM is stupid. It is the equivilant of saying, "So like be good while being a volunteer and we took the liberty to make sure if anyone mental disagrees with your Internet spaceship gaming direction and philosophy, they have a way to easily harm you in real life due to use providing your real name."

It is a game. CCP should not be enabeling psycos to harm players in real life. If something bad was to really happen, people will blame CCP regardless. Forcing players to reveal their real name when running for CSM provides zero benifits to any aspect of this game. ZERO.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-08-17 22:44:25 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
I've got no problem with CSM's being as "anonymous" as they choose to be. However, if they begin to show the stunning lack of character that people such as the disgraced lawyer did, I would hope CCP would "out" them in all their deserved glory in order to keep the stink of their actions off the company.

Besides, aren't their names clearly announced in their candidacies? I seem to recall seeing the names of all of them in the last couple elections.

Edit: haven't seen Mintchip's latest video; I only tend to watch her do her EveO stuff a couple times a year. Belly button lint is more exciting than her videos.

No need to 'out' them. Just remove them from the CSM.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-08-17 22:50:19 UTC
yeah i mean all you're gonna learn is that i'm an RL troll as well as an eve troll
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-08-17 22:55:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
yeah i mean all you're gonna learn is that i'm an RL troll as well as an eve troll

Seriously you are correct. I mean the point of what you said. The jerks are still gonna jerk and not care who they offend. It is those who mean the best, but because they pushed for an agenda for changes that step on the toes of someone running an RMT sweat shop; they get a horse head in the mail or worse.

Edit: in no way am I implying a specific person here is a jerk. Have to include these things or someone will make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-08-18 01:10:50 UTC
wait whut? A female avatar actually used by a female? Is the sky falling?

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
5n4keyes
Sacred Templars
Fraternity.
#40 - 2012-08-18 01:23:13 UTC
I think that its pretty common for players to add each other to say facebook, or other social media sites, or even know each others real names, this is certainly common in my corp.

Its also not usually too hard to find someone on the internet with a bit of googling, people tend to play with the same name/tag, eventually this leads to an email you can search for, voila facebook profile.

The problem comes when that kind of information is used for abuse, simply knowing someones name and country isn;t hard to find, but taking it beyond that is where the issues begin.

I personally wouldn't have a problem with my real name being posted if I ran for CSM, and im sure if people really wanted to, they could find out who I was, and where I live, having my name posted on a CSM running sheet would only save a person a few minutes.

/5n4ke