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Reviving the Soul of New Eden's Relic'd Past --- Mothership

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Anslo
Scope Works
#21 - 2012-08-17 15:33:15 UTC
Nyreanya wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:
Man how young are you people?

See sig.


It's not about being wrong, it's just stubbornly making flat out accusations about things just because "**** YOU." It's stupid, it's like people here try to be "hard-core" fans and refuse to see the other side at all, or even think outside the box and think how could they compare, say, story wise and not just freaking game play wise.

To OP: If you want help, I'm willing to in anyway I can. I like both games and, unlike others here, I see that there are quite a few mirroring concepts. Let me know what I can do and mail me in game!

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dethleffs
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#22 - 2012-08-17 15:34:33 UTC
eve forerunner is elite. case closed.

on another note: go play homeworld instead of eve.
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#23 - 2012-08-17 15:43:05 UTC
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How can you say there's absolutely no similarities between Eve and Homeworld aside from being in space? Hell even the pod pilot idea is similar in a few aspects. Not the pod sure, but controlling an entire ship through one individual. Give me a break...stupid elitists.

Morale Edit: Good idea OP, it's one hell of a task, but it could be pretty cool. I kind of see it as a simulator for large scale encounters between alliances and a way to see if certain fleet compositions work or not without just staring at numbers and calculators all day.

Me Gusta.


The only problem with HomeWorld Multiplayer is the game play is confined to one system or map.

I having discussing with other HW Modders about being able to connect systems or maps together using either Slip Gates or Hyperspace Technology so ships could move around different systems in the Multi-player mode instead of crowding eight motherships into one map.

If we can breach such an obstacle along with introducing planetary assaults where a person would have to assault a planet place bases to harvest resources to support the space based mission I think the Home World Series would be twice as fun as it had been before.

So now instead of just worrying about losing your mothership you have to worry about planets that you conquered coming under attack from the enemy not only in the same system but in any of the five linked systems.

The cool thing about HW is that you can design your ships, textures and logos to give it the feel that EvE Online does not.

The only problem would be incorporating all of the custom ships into a single server. But with the RTS setting of the game itself there would be alot more options available because there would be all of the space taken up on the server that deals with ship fitting windows, POS, POS equipment ect.


Another similarity between EvE and HW is that you can change the turrets out on your ship with something different by merely copying and pasting the various weapon data from one ship to another ship.

Currently I have taken a scout ship that has small projectiles cannons....sound familar? And replaced them with Large Ion Cannons from an Ion Cannon Frigate and juiced the velocity up to 3000 ms.

So if any one wants to give us a hand we could always use input from people on how a Mod or the actual game should be built we are always looking for ideas.

The current Mod that I am working on involves 7 playable races that will have their own ship designs bonuses and negatives along with 11 sub races, Pirates and Dregs based off of the interaction between the seven main races.

I'm not trying to take away fans or money from CCP. Just trying to breathe life back into a relic that would be the base of how CCP came to be.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#24 - 2012-08-17 15:45:05 UTC
We get it, you liked Homeworld.

No, EVE is not even kind of similar.
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#25 - 2012-08-17 15:45:11 UTC
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eve forerunner is elite. case closed.

on another note: go play homeworld instead of eve.


Go back to the ghetto and keep your mouth to yourself.

Did anyone one show up on your doorstep insulting you? Or can you merely only play a game and not develop one.

Simple minded podder.
Cadfael Maelgwyn
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-08-17 15:45:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Cadfael Maelgwyn
DrysonBennington wrote:
Another similarity between EvE and HW is that you can change the turrets out on your ship with something different by merely copying and pasting the various weapon data from one ship to another ship.

I'm pretty sure that if that takes a hack to achieve, it's not similar at all.

EDIT

DrysonBennington wrote:
Quote:
eve forerunner is elite. case closed.

on another note: go play homeworld instead of eve.


Go back to the ghetto and keep your mouth to yourself.

Did anyone one show up on your doorstep insulting you? Or can you merely only play a game and not develop one.

Simple minded podder.

Did you really just say that?
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#27 - 2012-08-17 15:46:34 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:

Currently I have taken a scout ship that has small projectiles cannons....sound familar?


Why yes, it does!
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#28 - 2012-08-17 15:47:19 UTC
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We get it, you liked Homeworld.

No, EVE is not even kind of similar.


Have you ever played HW?

Perhaps your Correlative Thinking and Associations Skill needs trained to level five to receive the full bonus.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#29 - 2012-08-17 15:49:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
DrysonBennington wrote:
Quote:
We get it, you liked Homeworld.

No, EVE is not even kind of similar.


Have you ever played HW?

Perhaps your Correlative Thinking and Associations Skill needs trained to level five to receive the full bonus.


Both of them. Multiple times. You need to stop the wishful thinking, and stop acting so defensive.

Your comparison was overwrought and poorly founded. We called it out. Now you're just making yourself look worse while simultaneously drawing more attention towards yourself.

For everyone's sake, just stop.
Cadfael Maelgwyn
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-08-17 15:49:04 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Quote:
We get it, you liked Homeworld.

No, EVE is not even kind of similar.


Have you ever played HW?

Perhaps your Correlative Thinking and Associations Skill needs trained to level five to receive the full bonus.

You're showing yourself to be a petty, simple-minded fool by posting these insults.

Seriously, knock it off.
Anslo
Scope Works
#31 - 2012-08-17 15:54:25 UTC
OP don't waste time on these GD cretins. They'll troll and troll hard. Make a post in Out of Pod or some other idea sub forums. These people don't have many good ideas anyway (except Tippia..her ideas are just laced with bluntness).

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Cadfael Maelgwyn
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-08-17 15:56:34 UTC
Anslo wrote:
OP don't waste time on these GD cretins. They'll troll and troll hard. Make a post in Out of Pod or some other idea sub forums. These people don't have many good ideas anyway (except Tippia..her ideas are just laced with bluntness).

All we did was challenge his point. Then he started flinging mud.

Seems like he's just another 'GD cretin'.
Anslo
Scope Works
#33 - 2012-08-17 16:02:42 UTC
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:
Anslo wrote:
OP don't waste time on these GD cretins. They'll troll and troll hard. Make a post in Out of Pod or some other idea sub forums. These people don't have many good ideas anyway (except Tippia..her ideas are just laced with bluntness).

All we did was challenge his point. Then he started flinging mud.

Seems like he's just another 'GD cretin'.


You didn't just "challenge his point." You aimed a nuke at it and shot it out of the sky, then rubbed it in his face. Deny what you want, but that's what happened. There's a difference between constructive criticism and pure assholery.

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Cadfael Maelgwyn
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-08-17 16:07:35 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:
Anslo wrote:
OP don't waste time on these GD cretins. They'll troll and troll hard. Make a post in Out of Pod or some other idea sub forums. These people don't have many good ideas anyway (except Tippia..her ideas are just laced with bluntness).

All we did was challenge his point. Then he started flinging mud.

Seems like he's just another 'GD cretin'.


You didn't just "challenge his point." You aimed a nuke at it and shot it out of the sky, then rubbed it in his face. Deny what you want, but that's what happened. There's a difference between constructive criticism and pure assholery.

And I could certainly say the same thing about you, couldn't I?

"Deny what you want, but that's what happened."

I made a point about his claim that HW was the forerunner of EVE, citing storyline and game mechanics examples. I challenged this by contrasting the storylines of both games, showing that they really weren't similar.

If that's "nuking" a point and "pure assholery", I really hope you never enter a civil debate with somebody.
Anslo
Scope Works
#35 - 2012-08-17 16:16:52 UTC
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:
Anslo wrote:
OP don't waste time on these GD cretins. They'll troll and troll hard. Make a post in Out of Pod or some other idea sub forums. These people don't have many good ideas anyway (except Tippia..her ideas are just laced with bluntness).

All we did was challenge his point. Then he started flinging mud.

Seems like he's just another 'GD cretin'.


You didn't just "challenge his point." You aimed a nuke at it and shot it out of the sky, then rubbed it in his face. Deny what you want, but that's what happened. There's a difference between constructive criticism and pure assholery.

And I could certainly say the same thing about you, couldn't I?

"Deny what you want, but that's what happened."

I made a point about his claim that HW was the forerunner of EVE, citing storyline and game mechanics examples. I challenged this by contrasting the storylines of both games, showing that they really weren't similar.

If that's "nuking" a point and "pure assholery", I really hope you never enter a civil debate with somebody.


You could say the same about me, because I did it on purpose, specifically at you, because of all the initial postings.

You made your point in a blunt, rude, and aggressive manner instead of attempting to keep it civilized. Instead of a "While I see what you're saying," or "I kind of get where you're going, but," you basically say "No you're wrong, gtfo EVE" while he address you bastards in a very kind and diplomatic manner. So yes, it is assholery and nuking without any need to.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#36 - 2012-08-17 17:12:34 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Man how young are you people?

Old enough to have watched the entire RTS genre be born, kiddo. Also, old enough to have consumed enough science fiction to recognize that the tropes and mechanics that EVE and HW have in common, they also have in common with many, many others.

We're talking about two great games with completely different design philosophies. Don't insult them by trying to shove them together.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#37 - 2012-08-17 17:48:32 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:


Most of you may or may not know that a game called HomeWord was the forerunner to EvE Online. Take a look and you see the similarities.'


you're. an. idiot.

Elite, learn2gaminghistory.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.

Riknarr
Midhalla
#38 - 2012-08-17 17:52:04 UTC
I had Elite and still have the Homeworld discs here beside me. I thought Homeworld was fantastic in its time and would love to see it rejuvenated. I can see similarities and there are elements that I'd love EVE to steal, e.g. elements of the UI.
Good luck Cool
Ghazu
#39 - 2012-08-17 17:54:41 UTC
Mixing IP is dumb mmmkay.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#40 - 2012-08-17 18:01:50 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Old enough to have watched the entire RTS genre be born, kiddo.

Dune 2 (click -> 'm" -> click, repeat).

Damn, now I want to find my old Homeworld CD...

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

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