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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-08-17 13:27:09 UTC
Rutger Janssen wrote:
I don't have eve installed on this pc, but if I remember correctly, the launcher usually contains a link saying "Patch notes" and links to recent dev blogs?

To be fair, the patch notes and dev blog came out a mere week before the changes we in place, unless you did some serious time with the test server(I know I did) you were unaware of these until then.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Jiska Ensa
Estrale Frontiers
#22 - 2012-08-17 13:35:25 UTC
This thread makes me sad Sad
Sardek Nardan
Khanid Constructions
#23 - 2012-08-17 14:02:46 UTC
Drosophilies Melanogaste wrote:
Sardek Nardan - The difference is blindingly obvious. Devblogs need to be sought out outside the game client and followed. Eve-mails are bought to your attention within the game client.

I now realise a fundamental error in making my posting here: The only pilots that will look at this thread are those that already follow Devblogs and forums. I have self-selected for the those that by definition are not the targets of my concerns, even though some of these folks have been helpful! Doh!

I also realise now that those who do not use the devblogs and forums are second class citizens that need to be treated with contempt and put in their place. I can only apologise for interrupting your Lordships. (sarcastic humour attempt)

Thanks to those that actually took the time to provide new information and assistance! Greatly appreciated.


PS Any posts along the lines of "Why didn't you look at devblogs? Why don't you just suck it up? Your playing the game wrong!" or similar are unlikely to add anything useful to this thread, but thanks for taking the time to look.


And next month someone come to say "come on ccp I do not read those damn spam e-mail you send me! I want a pop up in my game!". Then a month later someone will come and complain they deactivated the pop-up etc... As it has been said I think devblogs and patch notes appear in the login screen.
Drosophilies Melanogaste
Department 10
#24 - 2012-08-17 16:48:20 UTC
Thank you for your comments, I think I have learned a fair bit and have a better understanding of other pilots views on the subject of updates and patches now.

I suppose it is a lot to expect of CCP to be "all things to everyone" and whilst I do think things could be done better I have certainly changed my opinion on a few things:

1) CCP probably aren't picking on highsec pilots, the process of creative destruction gets everyone in the end. Just because I don't see it it doesn't mean it doesn't happen! I shall certainly be better placed to talk to fellow grumblers now.

2) All pilots should be encouraged to peruse the Devblogs and warned that not doing so may result in unpleasant surprises!

3) Don't get too attached to the way things are - they'll probably change soon enough.

4) What have I missed?


Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-08-17 16:52:46 UTC
Drosophilies Melanogaste wrote:
4) What have I missed?

Taco.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-08-18 07:10:46 UTC
Titan and supercap pilots weren't reimbursed in any way when their ships were changed, and that was a total nerf as opposed to a buff/role adjustment like the mining barges.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Kitt JT
True North.
#27 - 2012-08-18 10:18:58 UTC
I guess you've never had your titan nerfed....

five times in a row.

Welcome to new eden. HTFU
Cismani
Bush Chook Brewery
Apocalypse Now.
#28 - 2012-08-21 01:45:56 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Rutger Janssen wrote:
I don't have eve installed on this pc, but if I remember correctly, the launcher usually contains a link saying "Patch notes" and links to recent dev blogs?

To be fair, the patch notes and dev blog came out a mere week before the changes we in place, unless you did some serious time with the test server(I know I did) you were unaware of these until then.


a week before.... hmmmmm


http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72890

thats like 2 months before
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-08-21 02:15:29 UTC
So I take it you missed the part where the posted the dev blog discussing mining barge changes, ON THE LAUNCHER.
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-08-21 02:31:08 UTC
Posting in an entitlement thread.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-08-21 03:11:39 UTC
Cismani wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Rutger Janssen wrote:
I don't have eve installed on this pc, but if I remember correctly, the launcher usually contains a link saying "Patch notes" and links to recent dev blogs?

To be fair, the patch notes and dev blog came out a mere week before the changes we in place, unless you did some serious time with the test server(I know I did) you were unaware of these until then.


a week before.... hmmmmm


http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72890

thats like 2 months before

Hm, yup you are right, i completly forgot about that dev blog, I was thinking about the patch notes that directly ststed what the changes were, but that blog states the ships will get an Ore Hold, which render cargo rigs useless. +1 for you.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
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