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Hongus Gwag
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-08-08 19:47:40 UTC
I hate having to dock and grab a ship to kill rats with whilst mining, so until now I've been using a mining apoc. I'm wondering with the recent update if a barge could now be fit to tank the rats that turn up in null belts, if not the BSs then at least the frigs. I'm in sansha space so it would need em/therm. It has to be a procurer for now due to poor mining skills.

I'm thinking 2 EM ward II a thermal dissipation II and a suitably small shield repper in the mids, EM and thermal pump rigs.

Any suggestions besides train a skiff welcome.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2012-08-08 19:54:26 UTC
uh, you could always tank the belt rats (even with a hulk) ... just need to have "decent" (L2/3) shield skills...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Hongus Gwag
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-08-08 19:58:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Hongus Gwag
Hmm, well as I said; very little experience of mining anything whilst not being in an apoc. Suggestions on making a decent procurer shield tank anyone?
Chris Slayter
Perdition
#4 - 2012-08-09 02:06:25 UTC
[Procurer, Tanky]

Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

Modulated Strip Miner II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

65.8k EHP, ALL 5, Needs +1% PG Imp

Best I could throw together, not flying a Procurer however. Might be better Fits out there.
Alara IonStorm
#5 - 2012-08-09 02:32:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
[Procurer, Gank Defense]

Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Survey Scanner II

Modulated Strip Miner II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5

Use Mining Drones in Systems w/o Rats. I am not sure if any High Sec Rats tackle (Haven't spent much time in High Sec Belts), if they don't you can use Mining Drones because the nature recharge will tank any High Sec Belt NPC.

60K EHP lowest resist Therm, Highest 75k Exp. Has a Survey Scanner so you know what you are not getting half cycles. If you want 2 Mining Upgrades you can ditch the DCU and still hold 45k EHP lowest resist (2 Tornado's 0.5, 4 Above 0.5.).

Just started using this myself till I get a Mack. Haven't been one for Mining before this patch.

Edit, just realized you're trying to use this thing in Null.

[Procurer, Null Tank.]

Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Medium Shield Booster II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field

Modulated Strip Miner II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x5

Not sure if enough, been I while since I was in Null but the best I could pull up. Definitely will kill the Frigs before you die.
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-08-09 02:34:52 UTC
High-sec rats don't tackle, and if you can tank the spawn you can ignore them and deploy mining drones anways.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#7 - 2012-08-09 03:52:35 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
uh, you could always tank the belt rats (even with a hulk) ... just need to have "decent" (L2/3) shield skills...


5x T2 light drones pwns the crap out of belt rats even in 0.5. With really good drone skillz I'd imagine they can handle belt rats in 0.4 and maybe even in 0.3 as well.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#8 - 2012-08-09 03:53:50 UTC
Shereza wrote:
High-sec rats don't tackle, and if you can tank the spawn you can ignore them and deploy mining drones anways.


Guristas belt rats do ECM jam, however, which disrupts the roid-sucking process. That's one very good reason to carry light drones, if you're going to mine in Caldari space.
Tanlinara
LightBender Mining and Research Corp
#9 - 2012-08-09 04:50:55 UTC
Chris Slayter wrote:
[Procurer, Tanky]

Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

Modulated Strip Miner II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

65.8k EHP, ALL 5, Needs +1% PG Imp

Best I could throw together, not flying a Procurer however. Might be better Fits out there.



I dont have many skills at 5 but i used your fit as a basis , power grid is a bit small , while the cap holds up real well.

Damage Control II
power core

Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

Modulated Strip Miner

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

5 hobgoblin

I can use invul ii in a day or so and have enough grid left to fit them with this fit. As above 48k ehp. I dont have an implant.

But i really like it none the less , much better than a frigate.
Fodan
Phoenix Ashes Inc.
#10 - 2012-08-15 11:05:26 UTC
[Procurer, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

+ drones of your choice

EFT says 89.6k EHP
Warpshade
Warped Industries
#11 - 2012-08-15 15:55:45 UTC
Shereza wrote:
High-sec rats don't tackle,


This is untrue, unless their has been a changes i'm unaware of, High sec rats can scram.
Idris Helion
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-08-15 16:03:11 UTC
Warpshade wrote:
Shereza wrote:
High-sec rats don't tackle,


This is untrue, unless their has been a changes i'm unaware of, High sec rats can scram.


Only Guristas ever do this, in my experience. Guristas also jam and disrupt tracking.

This may have changed; it's been a long while since I've missioned in Caldari space.
Lili Lu
#13 - 2012-08-15 16:05:41 UTC
Hongus Gwag wrote:
I've been using a mining apoc. . . .Any suggestions besides train a skiff welcome.

A mining Apoc is so 2006. Mining Rokhs are where it's at these days.Blink
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#14 - 2012-08-15 16:51:02 UTC
Salpad wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
uh, you could always tank the belt rats (even with a hulk) ... just need to have "decent" (L2/3) shield skills...


5x T2 light drones pwns the crap out of belt rats even in 0.5. With really good drone skillz I'd imagine they can handle belt rats in 0.4 and maybe even in 0.3 as well.


5 T2 light drones can indeed handle .3 belt spawns... The only thing I haven't tested is a BC spawn... But cruiser/frig spawns are fine.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Traedar
InterStellar Trading Syndicate
#15 - 2012-08-15 17:03:35 UTC
3 Rat-specific hardeners (2 of the primary damage type, one of the secondary) or 2 with an Invuln... They do not need to be T2. Add a T2 Small Shield Booster. You should need a CPU rig. Not sure I would bother with defensive rigs or damage control but use MLUs in the lows. I did some messing around on SiSi before the patch and this sort of setup was sufficient to perma-tank some single-BS spawns. To tank the harder spawns, you might need a Skiff.

Another thing that might help is if you orbit the roid you are shooting (assuming you aren't can mining). Having some velocity and transversal will make you a harder target.

A full set of drones will help too.

Mutant Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-08-15 17:12:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutant Caldari
[Procurer, Sansha]
Damage Control II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Medium Shield Booster II
EM Ward Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

199 DPS Sansha tank(Assuming it is a 50/50 split, too lazy to really check. If it's more EM heavy then go 2 active EM hardeners and the thermal as the Passive), 984 yield and perma-runs at 48% with all at 5. This is all EFT Warrioring though seeing as I don't mine nor have I ratted in Sansha space.