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Mackalypse Now
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Illest Insurrectionist
Sparta.
#21 - 2012-08-14 17:54:13 UTC
Altrue wrote:
Do you realize that if there were no miners there wouldn't have any ship to use for suicide gank ?


False. If people stopped the mind numbing mining CCP would actually have to make resource gathering somewhat amusing.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#22 - 2012-08-14 17:57:54 UTC
Because being in a fleet with 10 other players will keep your ship from being insta-volleyd.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#23 - 2012-08-14 17:59:03 UTC
Illest Insurrectionist wrote:
Altrue wrote:
Do you realize that if there were no miners there wouldn't have any ship to use for suicide gank ?


False. If people stopped the mind numbing mining CCP would actually have to make resource gathering somewhat amusing.


That's my new #1 reason for ganking miners. We do it for their own benefit.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Illest Insurrectionist
Sparta.
#24 - 2012-08-14 17:59:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Illest Insurrectionist
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Because being in a fleet with 10 other players will keep your ship from being insta-volleyd.


I hear this alot.

It would take 2 tier 3 BCs to insta volley a mack.

People arn't going around in BCs killing macks/hulks.

I do it with catalysts so it has a profitability to it. Unless people pony up rewards far in excess of 10m i don't see the BC thing being a true worry.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-08-14 18:01:23 UTC
The Djentleman Paulson wrote:
this thread is now about Makalu


NOW this thread is interesting.


brb
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#26 - 2012-08-14 18:09:35 UTC
Illest Insurrectionist wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Because being in a fleet with 10 other players will keep your ship from being insta-volleyd.


I hear this alot.

It would take 2 tier 3 BCs to insta volley a mack.

People arn't going around in BCs killing macks/hulks.

I do it with catalysts so it has a profitability to it. Unless people pony up rewards far in excess of 10m i don't see the BC thing being a true worry.


No matter if you are mining solo or with 300 corp mates. If your mack is a pure yield fit 2 tornados to the kisser will make you go boom.


Also people who do it competitively (hulkageddon, 'mackalypse', etc) don't really care about spending money.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Xyon Xero
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-08-14 18:12:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Xyon Xero
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Illest Insurrectionist
Sparta.
#28 - 2012-08-14 18:19:15 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Illest Insurrectionist wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Because being in a fleet with 10 other players will keep your ship from being insta-volleyd.


I hear this alot.

It would take 2 tier 3 BCs to insta volley a mack.

People arn't going around in BCs killing macks/hulks.

I do it with catalysts so it has a profitability to it. Unless people pony up rewards far in excess of 10m i don't see the BC thing being a true worry.


No matter if you are mining solo or with 300 corp mates. If your mack is a pure yield fit 2 tornados to the kisser will make you go boom.


Also people who do it competitively (hulkageddon, 'mackalypse', etc) don't really care about spending money.


Spending money does matter. Had Oxygen Achasse used a tornado for each of his kills that would have been ~22,400,000,000 isk in ship cost alone.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2012-08-14 18:19:40 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
1 DCU, 2 Invulns, 1 MSE and Rigs is enough to to stop any real wide spread attacks against these ships...

So no one tell miners these modules exist okay?
Meh. They haven't been able to find them in nearly a decade even when explicitly shown them so I don't think there's little worry that they'll discover them any time soon.

Renan Ruivo wrote:
No matter if you are mining solo or with 300 corp mates. If your mack is a pure yield fit 2 tornados to the kisser will make you go boom.
Lesson: don't go for pure yield. See aforementioned modules.
Illest Insurrectionist
Sparta.
#30 - 2012-08-14 18:26:57 UTC
A guy in piekura had the DC2, MSE2 invuln and rigs fit. He switched over to a skiff last night.

I'm not sure that people that are concerned about tank would put a strong tank on a mack instead of just switching.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#31 - 2012-08-14 18:32:16 UTC
Illest Insurrectionist wrote:
A guy in piekura had the DC2, MSE2 invuln and rigs fit. He switched over to a skiff last night.

I'm not sure that people that are concerned about tank would put a strong tank on a mack instead of just switching.
Probably not. The best tank I can get out of a silly-fit Mack is somewhere in the region of 55k EHP (of which 40k is shield buffer, so suddenly those fabled Tornados don't work any more, especially if someone was mean enough to bring a logi…).
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2012-08-14 18:42:40 UTC
Altrue wrote:
Do you realize that if there were no miners there wouldn't have any ship to use for suicide gank ?


We found something else to play with

Lots

of

them
Joe Hinken
Cetan Consortium
#33 - 2012-08-14 18:54:43 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Altrue wrote:
Do you realize that if there were no miners there wouldn't have any ship to use for suicide gank ?


We found something else to play with

Lots

of

them


There are not enough Alex Gianturcos in those killmails.

Brick Royl > bad timing the isk is deflating fatser then a baloon in a cactus shop
Alara IonStorm
#34 - 2012-08-14 19:09:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
1 DCU, 2 Invulns, 1 MSE and Rigs is enough to to stop any real wide spread attacks against these ships...

So no one tell miners these modules exist okay?

1, Get into corp if it is a player corp
2. Find out when they do mining ops
3. Go on said mining op with a gank-fit battleship
4. blow up everything that is green
5. repeat

You only need one ship to carry Hobs for belt rats not that they can tackle or break shield recharge anyway. Have the rest of them hold ECM Drones along with there mining drones. 6 or 7 Flights of ECM Drones, maybe even a couple with 600's will get rid of tackle long before said battleship can break the first 30+ EHP Tank.

That along with BG (Former CEO's) Checks and KB Checks will eliminate practically all repeat offenders from entry.

Easy tactics become a whole lot less easy when your victims take an ounce of prevention.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#35 - 2012-08-14 19:12:57 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
The Djentleman Paulson wrote:
this thread is now about Makalu

NOW this thread is interesting.

I wonder how he'd FC a mack fleet...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#36 - 2012-08-14 19:13:40 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Altrue wrote:
Do you realize that if there were no miners there wouldn't have any ship to use for suicide gank ?


We found something else to play with

Lots

of

them
I noticed that Bat Country Niarja camp a few days back when I went through…

Should I be insulted that no-one tried to shoot me? P
Jypsie
Wandering Star Enterprises
#37 - 2012-08-14 19:18:09 UTC
Illest Insurrectionist wrote:
Altrue wrote:
Do you realize that if there were no miners there wouldn't have any ship to use for suicide gank ?


False. If people stopped the mind numbing mining CCP would actually have to make resource gathering somewhat amusing.


False. CCP would just take the easiest method and seed the market (either minerals, ships/mods, or both) instead of trying to reinvent the wheel. This would pretty much kill the idea that there is a free market, your industrialists and traders would vacate, hitting the wallet of CCP and slowing down work fixing or expanding on the skeleton of a game left for wannabe space pirates and imperial warmongers to blow each other up in.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#38 - 2012-08-14 19:22:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Altrue wrote:
Do you realize that if there were no miners there wouldn't have any ship to use for suicide gank ?
What is the ratio of mins from mining, drones (drone lands) and reprocessing?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2012-08-14 19:23:46 UTC
Tippia wrote:
I noticed that Bat Country Niarja camp a few days back when I went through…

Should I be insulted that no-one tried to shoot me? P


You are either too poor or too smart. Up to you which one you pickBlink
Alara IonStorm
#40 - 2012-08-14 19:25:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Mag's wrote:
Altrue wrote:
Do you realize that if there were no miners there wouldn't have any ship to use for suicide gank ?
What is the ratio of mins from mining, drones (drone lands) and reprocessing?

100% Mining - 0% Drones.

Remember they updated it along with changing pretty much all drops to meta. Not sure about reprocessing meta numbers though. Ugh
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