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Is there any real point mining ores such as veldspar? Need some tips.
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Sarpy Aranori
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-08-13 18:33:08 UTC
I'm beginning to run low on isk so I've decided to mine a little..

I'm thinking about just fitting a wreathe or a scythe with a mining laser and getting to work.

But is there any real point mining ores like Veldspar since they sell for so little? What other ores are worth mining for isk?
Ryelek d'Entari
Horizon Glare
#2 - 2012-08-13 18:35:55 UTC
Sarpy Aranori wrote:
I'm beginning to run low on isk so I've decided to mine a little..

I'm thinking about just fitting a wreathe or a scythe with a mining laser and getting to work.

But is there any real point mining ores like Veldspar since they sell for so little? What other ores are worth mining for isk?


Veldspar is actually one of the best (if not THE best) ore for isk/hr.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#3 - 2012-08-13 18:57:22 UTC
Scord is currently the best. do yourself a favour though, and don't mine in a wreathe (or other industrial) -- it's painfully slow. The racial mining frigates are better -- just mine into GSCs and pick the ore up when you've gotten enough to fill your hauler (or run out of cans, whichever)

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-08-13 19:02:30 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Scord is currently the best. do yourself a favour though, and don't mine in a wreathe (or other industrial) -- it's painfully slow. The racial mining frigates are better -- just mine into GSCs and pick the ore up when you've gotten enough to fill your hauler (or run out of cans, whichever)


Velicitia apparantly didn't read the patchnotes.

Mining frigates disappeared / will disappear soon.

But she is right, DON'T mine with an industrial
And if you want easy isk, there is more then just mining.

Mine if you want to mine. It's not the only ISK generation, you can run missions too.
As for Veldspar, it's highly in demand by people who live in places where it's rare (Null-sec).

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#5 - 2012-08-13 19:17:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
J'Poll wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Scord is currently the best. do yourself a favour though, and don't mine in a wreathe (or other industrial) -- it's painfully slow. The racial mining frigates are better -- just mine into GSCs and pick the ore up when you've gotten enough to fill your hauler (or run out of cans, whichever)


Velicitia apparantly didn't read the patchnotes.

Mining frigates disappeared / will disappear soon.

But she is right, DON'T mine with an industrial
And if you want easy isk, there is more then just mining.

Mine if you want to mine. It's not the only ISK generation, you can run missions too.
As for Veldspar, it's highly in demand by people who live in places where it's rare (Null-sec).



they're not going to be done away with til the big winter patch in Nov/Dec. So, as it stands, "use the mining frig for mining" if you wanna test it out...

alternatively, there will be the new ORE frig then.

edit
Patch Notes wrote:

The next step in the ongoing removal of ship Tiers (as described in this Dev Blog) affects the Attack Frigates: the Executioner, Condor, Atron and Slasher.


The Mining frigs are the Navitas, Probe, Bantam and uh ... Magnate? (meh, who cares about the Amarr one)

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Sarpy Aranori
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-08-13 19:35:02 UTC
Thank you ^^ I'm finding it okay in an Osprey right now.. What is a GSC? :o
Issidia Karkun
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-08-13 19:35:17 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Scord is currently the best. do yourself a favour though, and don't mine in a wreathe (or other industrial) -- it's painfully slow. The racial mining frigates are better -- just mine into GSCs and pick the ore up when you've gotten enough to fill your hauler (or run out of cans, whichever)


Velicitia apparantly didn't read the patchnotes.

Mining frigates disappeared / will disappear soon.

But she is right, DON'T mine with an industrial
And if you want easy isk, there is more then just mining.

Mine if you want to mine. It's not the only ISK generation, you can run missions too.
As for Veldspar, it's highly in demand by people who live in places where it's rare (Null-sec).



they're not going to be done away with til the big winter patch in Nov/Dec. So, as it stands, "use the mining frig for mining" if you wanna test it out...

alternatively, there will be the new ORE frig then.

edit
Patch Notes wrote:

The next step in the ongoing removal of ship Tiers (as described in this Dev Blog) affects the Attack Frigates: the Executioner, Condor, Atron and Slasher.


The Mining frigs are the Navitas, Probe, Bantam and uh ... Magnate? (meh, who cares about the Amarr one)


Magnate is for Exploration.......the Amarr mining frig is the Tormentor.......
Velicitia
XS Tech
#8 - 2012-08-13 19:49:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Issidia Karkun wrote:


Magnate is for Exploration.......the Amarr mining frig is the Tormentor.......


Like I said, who cares Blink ... got lucky with the Minmatar one ...

not like it matters so much, since they'll all get replaced with the "ORE Mining Frig" this winter.


Sarpy Aranori wrote:

I'm finding it okay in an Osprey right now.. What is a GSC? :o

Giant Secure Container. Anchorable cans that can hold up to 3900 m3 of stuff (note, restricted to 0.7 and below). Last in space indefinitely (so long as you access it once every 30 days).

Osprey is by far the best "Mining Cruiser" in the game. It's on its way out too ... though might be around longer than the mining frigs, as it isn't part of the tiericide yet.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-08-13 20:31:58 UTC
The Osprey's the best of the "mining cruisers", but with Inferno 1.2, it's no longer as efficient a miner as the updated mining barges. It's good if you want to experiment, and it can be converted to a cheap logistics cruiser if you decide you want to move on to the mining barges.

And the common ores can actually bring in some nice ISK - as long as ships get blown up, common minerals will be in demand to build their replacements, and ever since Drone Alloys and Tech-1-Meta-0 loot drops got taken out of the game, Tritanium has been at a premium.

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Sarpy Aranori
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-08-13 20:36:27 UTC
Thanks guys ^^}

I'll mine in the osprey for now until I need to move on to a new ship, I have a few movies I can alt tab to watch meanwhile x3
bassie12bf1
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-08-13 20:37:38 UTC
Issidia Karkun wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Scord is currently the best. do yourself a favour though, and don't mine in a wreathe (or other industrial) -- it's painfully slow. The racial mining frigates are better -- just mine into GSCs and pick the ore up when you've gotten enough to fill your hauler (or run out of cans, whichever)


Velicitia apparantly didn't read the patchnotes.

Mining frigates disappeared / will disappear soon.

But she is right, DON'T mine with an industrial
And if you want easy isk, there is more then just mining.

Mine if you want to mine. It's not the only ISK generation, you can run missions too.
As for Veldspar, it's highly in demand by people who live in places where it's rare (Null-sec).



they're not going to be done away with til the big winter patch in Nov/Dec. So, as it stands, "use the mining frig for mining" if you wanna test it out...

alternatively, there will be the new ORE frig then.

edit
Patch Notes wrote:

The next step in the ongoing removal of ship Tiers (as described in this Dev Blog) affects the Attack Frigates: the Executioner, Condor, Atron and Slasher.


The Mining frigs are the Navitas, Probe, Bantam and uh ... Magnate? (meh, who cares about the Amarr one)


Magnate is for Exploration.......the Amarr mining frig is the Tormentor.......


Amarr have no mining frig anymore.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#12 - 2012-08-13 20:40:29 UTC
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/

The price per unit is not important. The price per m3 is, as you will mine a steady X m3 a minute (Well, except for the big ores. There you'll lose some units due to rounding)

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-08-13 20:46:42 UTC
bassie12bf1 wrote:



Amarr have no mining frig anymore.



This, the golden fleet (aka Amarr) frigs already were overhauled.

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Oraac Ensor
#14 - 2012-08-13 21:52:45 UTC
Sarpy Aranori wrote:
I'm thinking about just fitting a wreathe or a scythe with a mining laser and getting to work.
Whatever you do, don't just use "a mining laser". Blink

bassie12bf1 wrote:
Issidia Karkun wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
The Mining frigs are the Navitas, Probe, Bantam and uh ... Magnate? (meh, who cares about the Amarr one)
Magnate is for Exploration.......the Amarr mining frig is the Tormentor.......

Amarr have no mining frig anymore.
And the Minmatar one is the Burst. Cool
Velicitia
XS Tech
#15 - 2012-08-13 21:58:07 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
bassie12bf1 wrote:



Amarr have no mining frig anymore.



This, the golden fleet (aka Amarr) frigs already were overhauled.
Shocked

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#16 - 2012-08-13 23:04:48 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Scord is currently the best. do yourself a favour though, and don't mine in a wreathe (or other industrial) -- it's painfully slow. The racial mining frigates are better -- just mine into GSCs and pick the ore up when you've gotten enough to fill your hauler (or run out of cans, whichever)


Velicitia apparantly didn't read the patchnotes.

Mining frigates disappeared / will disappear soon.

But she is right, DON'T mine with an industrial
And if you want easy isk, there is more then just mining.

Mine if you want to mine. It's not the only ISK generation, you can run missions too.
As for Veldspar, it's highly in demand by people who live in places where it's rare (Null-sec).


Veldspar is rare in nullsec?
Last time I checked, I see multiple gigantic 100K units + Velspar roids.
What are you smoking?

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mkint
#17 - 2012-08-14 01:43:10 UTC
When you are calculating value, you care about isk per m3, not isk per unit. Value of ores depend on local market conditions. A barge should be really easy to get into, if you can scrounge the isk.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#18 - 2012-08-14 01:47:41 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Sarpy Aranori wrote:
I'm thinking about just fitting a wreathe or a scythe with a mining laser and getting to work.
Whatever you do, don't just use "a mining laser". Blink

bassie12bf1 wrote:
Issidia Karkun wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
The Mining frigs are the Navitas, Probe, Bantam and uh ... Magnate? (meh, who cares about the Amarr one)
Magnate is for Exploration.......the Amarr mining frig is the Tormentor.......

Amarr have no mining frig anymore.
And the Minmatar one is the Burst. Cool



oh, FFS ... Oops

doesn't matter anyway

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#19 - 2012-08-14 08:36:03 UTC
Frankly forget the frigates and get your self a retriever they cost peanuts and are hardy enough to avoid frigates in high sec.
Otherwise you will spending a long long time sucking those roids. Big smile
mkint
#20 - 2012-08-14 08:44:49 UTC
Baneken wrote:
Frankly forget the frigates and get your self a retriever they cost peanuts and are hardy enough to avoid frigates in high sec.
Otherwise you will spending a long long time sucking those roids. Big smile

20 mil in dodixie. If he's in the price point for a cruiser (2 mil?) the retriever may be way out of his range. If the procurer didn't shoot up too high, it might work, though still might be out of his price point.

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