Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Why are bookmarks so difficult? Why can they only be copied five at a time? Why does it take 15 minutes to open a can full of them in space (while rendering that EVE client useless for the duration)? Why is it so difficult to deal with sets of coordinates in EVE online?

I think bookmarks should be totally re-done. At the very least, they need to be re-coded so that they can be efficiently manipulated in-game (copying more than 5 at a time, making them load like any other item, etc). At best, a total redesign of the bookmark system could be pretty excellent.

Why I can't send a set of coordinates between my ships when I feel like it (rather than decloaking (everyone knows copying coordinates on a computer can't be done while running modules), copying them to my cargohold five at a time, jet-canning them, opening a jet-can on other clients (each one taking approximately 3 evers to load the contents), drag the bookmarks to those clients' cargoholds (not from the can to your bookmarks folder because that would eliminate a step and make sense), and then drag them into the target clients' people and places (which takes another 2.5 evers and essentially freezes the client while it's doing it)) is beyond me.

EVE is an old game. Understand that I'm not making fun of the current system because I'm mad at my devbros-- I'm merely trying to point out how dated and clumsy it is. It would be super-duper-extra-cool if bookmarks could be changed into something that can be transmitted to other players. It makes zero sense that the only way to move bookmarks would be to make a physical item and move it to another ship via a series of boxes. Corp bookmarks were an awesome addition and have eliminated some of the pain of dealing with the bookmark system, but there's also a limit on how many of them you can create (making them viable for bookmarking strategic alliance assets but not for doing personal stuff) and they obviously don't work for people outside your corp.

It would be great to see a bookmark system where I could make bookmarks on one character and then send them to my other characters in some relatively quick and straightforward way that didn't freeze all my clients (or require them to be physically next to each other, for that matter). It would be even cooler if you could set up syncs between characters (so that people who multibox like I do can keep all their bookmarks up to date on all their guys in a fairly automated fashion).

Please please pretty please do something to make bookmarks less awful. It would make my spacelife better, and probably other people's as well! While I'm sure we would all miss the comfort and convenience of having physical bookmarks with which to direct our spacecraft and conveniently mark pages in our paper tomes, I'm sure some other object in EVE can be made to function in the latter role.

Bookmarks are well overdue for some love, not a little love A LOT OF LOVE.

Why can't we have a hot-key to push? You have the handy right click menu in space to interact with a pre saved bookmark but no quick way to create them.

I would love to hear some feedback from a dev on this. I would like to hope something is already happening with bookmarks.

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This would make so many things so much easier. Please do this.

Agreed with rewriting with focus on performance.

However I'm not sure I support instant transfer of BMs over the ether. Imagine a spy in your fleet, who can now make an enemy fleet (or as many enemy fleets as they want) warp right on top of you while completely undetectable. As it is now they would have to drop fleet for a few seconds to provide a warpin, and potentially not be allowed back in if your fleet is closed.

Either keep the current system with physical items, or introduce a delay in "wireless" propagation of bookmarks.

This is a great idea.

Bookmarks are so clunky at the moment, and the limit of 250 for larger corporations is bad.

A little background: The big issue was that back in the day you could not warp to 0m. So pilots (primarily haulers) would make/purchase sets of bookmarks that would drop you out of warp on top of a gate/station/etc. The lag issues would happen when people would start to copy sets of a couple hundred or more to sell/give away. I remember a whole month where the server was nearly unusable and so that is why you can only copy five at a time, etc.

CCP successfully addressed this problem years ago and modifying the BM’s wasn’t the solution. I doubt they’d do the same thing now.

But I do like the idea of being able to pass a BM onto your fleet, but if we are worried about lag, perhaps if we limited this capability to someone defined by a new role in the fleet called scout (along with boss, booster, etc) who would broadcast a BM/target for the rest of the fleet to act upon

Also, I would like an option to be able to see my own and corp bookmarks in my overview.

Bump.

free bump as its a problem and sucks not being able to use some content in eve...

let me rightclick a Folder with bookmarks to deactivate it, so i just can deactivate till im under 13.000 but not have to delete them...this cant be so hard...