Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Approved.

Proposal supported. New icons look professional. Old icons look cartoonish, and nothing like what's actually strapped to your ship. Performance difference in loading either is nothing - they're all icons, and you only noticed it because you're (a) running EVE on a dinosaur computer (whose fault?) or they were (b) overwriting the old icons in your cache for the first time.

Can't see the new icons on a dark background?

Possible solutions:
- Mouse over the icon and read the tooltip
- Place a small set of caliber/size numbers in the corner of the icon (that will by default be grey/white so easy to read)
- Harden the f*ck up

Stop holding EVE back because you are threatened by change.

I quite liked the newer icons too and was actually starting to get used to them before they were reverted. The old icons, while more instantly recognizable and practical, are ... well, old and therefore a bit boring.

What I would have done would have been to find some way of mass photoshopping the "photographs" of the new turret types such that they looked stylized and simplified, for ease of visual recognition (in the same way as the old painted icons are).

However they were done they just weren't instantly recognizable as small icons (especially in their slots in Fitting). Most especially, there didn't seem to be any difference in gun size in the icons, and that's very important (it's like all the gun "photographs" were "stretched to fit" the icon window).

The best option would have been to get an artist to paint icons of the new turret models in the art style of the old icons - but I'm guessing CCP didn't find enough money for that in their piggy bank.

I agree that they can be told apart, type by type, however I think this is more of the point: You have one set of icons on your ship, and another set of icons in your inventory windows. Personally, it feels like I'm playing two separate video games. The icons in the menu are, factually, just plain -not- what I see on my ship. I totally respect graphical render limitations for stills, at least I think I'd struggle matching 3D icons to a flat texture format. However, I just couldn't imagine making a game where the menu icon is so different from the icon shown in the game world. It feels like a law you should never break if possible, IMO. The icon in the menu, should be exactly what you get. I see this in a lot of medieval/fantasy MMOs though, where the icons don't match up and it drives me up a wall. You buy the in-game product loving its menu-icon graphics, and when you put it on it's some other texture you totally abhor.

Again, though, I do respect technical limitations in game design. This is why I am posting here: in game design, I love giving players options. -If- it's easy to code, I am in staunch support of a toggle box. I don't think the icons looked terrible - they were exactly what you saw on your ships! I think the fault, if any, would be only in the darkness or "extreme contrast" that were mentioned in some other posts here. The shade of grey/green used for the hybrid turrets didn't match well with the transparent icon background that surrounded it (or the often-grey inventory window background colors most players have). Maybe if CCP can easily make the actual ship turret icons more visible , this would eliminate the issue entirely.

Things like this drive me Insane. The Icons are meant to depict what the turrets are. Right now, they fail to do so.

Oh god please stop re-rendering each icon every time i look at something in icon view.

bp icons whited out because of bad whatever is so incredibly stupid only a Unified inventory developer could think it was a good idea.

Your art team is making some very bad choices. what is with the dark background for ship views? who though that that was a good idea? why are the backs of our characters not lit? why do the turret animations have a stary sky instead of a white wall factory floor background? these are old issues but seriously what the hell does the bottom of the nighthawk look like? the only way i was ever able to see any detail was bumping the gamma on my monitors up so high it hurt to look at.

werent the old icons client stored anyways? what would the toggle cost in programming?

Ugh I hope they don't bring those back-- they were too dark and detailed to actually provide recognizable information. At least when you look at the old old new icons you know what guns you have fitted (although most of the time you just look at an ammo icon I guess v0v).

+1 for the original icons.

+1

I liked the new icons. The ability to choose between old and new icons would be great, and I can't see how that would be costly or difficult to implement. I could be wrong though. Would be nice to get a dev statement on this.