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Blatant grammatical error in the main UI (even in Inferno Patch)

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Bukka Bazooka
#21 - 2012-08-11 16:32:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Bukka Bazooka
Kiwis23 wrote:
Since my first language is not english, I can't say much... But this mistake, if it is really a mistake, seems to be very common -

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=available+to+you+or+available+for+you&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=Vbh&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=available+to+you&oq=available+to+you
So I'm pretty sure not many people notices this.


Google search: "available to you"
Result: About 4,100,000,000 results (0.36 seconds)

Google search: "available for you"
Result: About 4,620,000,000 results (0.26 seconds)

Even Google agrees with me based on your inference. If you notice it took longer to get less. But that's a minor point =P

Let me leave you with a quote from Ghandi, "Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth." Google results (no matter how voluminous) can't touch logic like that.

Ghandi = 1, Google = 0

The best ship in EVE....is friendship =)
Bukka Bazooka
#22 - 2012-08-11 16:43:31 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
I'm not sure. "Available for you" sounds awkward. It sounds like an incomplete or abbreviated thought, as if it needs an infinitive to finish it. For example, "Available for you... to interact with."
Anyway, welcome to the forums! You'll find many fellow grammarians here. A brotherhood of enraged, irate, or sometimes just peeved individuals. Smile


LOL,Well I am none of any of those just wanted to point out a fragment that was akin to nails on chalkboard to me when seeing it everyday. =)

The best ship in EVE....is friendship =)
Bukka Bazooka
#23 - 2012-08-11 16:46:27 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
My OCD meter is beeping. Their seems to be someone who take offense to are bad grammar and spellings!


The following troll remarks of the OP are more offensive then the in-game error, tbh. But what's wrong with pointing out errors? Everyone's goal is to make the game better not worse, right? Otherwise that would be just insanity! lol

The best ship in EVE....is friendship =)
Horatius Caul
Kitzless
#24 - 2012-08-11 18:13:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Horatius Caul
It makes no difference what it's referring to, the preposition is determined by what follows the adjective.

Something is available to a person, or available for a purpose.

So:
The customer service representatives available to service me.
vs
The customer service representatives available for serving me.

The mechanics available to fix my car.
vs
The mechanics available for fixing my car.


So, which is it? The agents available to you, or the agents available for you?

Let's look at what they actually need to be complete sentences:
The agents available to offer missions to you.
vs
The agents available for offering missions to you.

These two sentences can be constructed to mean different things. You can either mean 'there are many agents that have missions, and these are the ones that have missions that you can take' or 'you have access to several agents, but only some of them have missions to offer'. The game means the former, and the sentence relying on making you the focus is better at conveying this without loss of clarity.

Also, both of the sentences end in 'to you'. Thus, the first sentence is both less ambiguous and will maintain both the integral proposition of the sentence and maintain the ending of the sentence when it is shortened.

Ergo: "Agents available to you" is grammatically correct.

The shortest correct form using 'for' would be: "Agents available for your use"

Amarrad - Amarr language project
Hiro Ceffoe
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-08-11 18:58:06 UTC
Also

"And they are no less driven to succeed or to rule... as you"

Should this be:

... as you are
or
... than you are
... than you
maybe?
ISD Etetia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-08-11 21:21:48 UTC
Hello Bukka Bazooka

If you believe you've found a bug in the game, be that grammatical errors or gameplay issues, the correct way to report it, is to file a Bug Report.

Discussing grammar dosen't really belong in this forum section

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