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chandraboy
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-11 13:58:34 UTC
Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them upOops
TheAmazingFlyingPig
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-08-11 14:46:32 UTC
*Is still mining happily in his Hulk*
Chris Slayter
Perdition
#3 - 2012-08-11 15:34:59 UTC
chandraboy wrote:
Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them upOops


Why don't you get yourself a Mack then? If cargo is all what you're upset about, then go for it. You won't notice the smaller yield if you use it for solo mining. You easily compensate for that by not needing an additional hauler.

If you use 2 or more accounts why not simply store the crystals in the hauler so he can drop them once needed on your hulk?
Judas Lonestar
Stryker Industries
Stryker Group
#4 - 2012-08-11 16:04:00 UTC
I'll happily take the hulk of your hands so you can upgrade.
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-08-11 16:10:45 UTC
And in other breaking news the hulk is no longer the best mining ship for yield, AFK-iness, and tank. It now has to contend with being the best at only one or two things like most other ships in the game. Here's hoping that the hulk can survive its brush with mortality!
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#6 - 2012-08-11 16:14:00 UTC
chandraboy wrote:
Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them upOops


contract me all your items and isk you ******* jackass. read the ******* patch notes.

hulk/covetor - fleet (kings of yield)
mack/retriver - solo (kings of ore bay)
skiff/procurer - kings of tank

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2012-08-11 16:15:41 UTC
Chris Slayter wrote:

Why don't you get yourself a Mack then? If cargo is all what you're upset about, then go for it. You won't notice the smaller yield if you use it for solo mining. You easily compensate for that by not needing an additional hauler.

Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit.
Theangryhobo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-08-11 18:52:56 UTC
Have you ever considered jetcan mining? It's very useful. Otherwise, Mackinaw. Slightly less yield, ton more cargo.

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-08-11 19:20:37 UTC
Judas Lonestar wrote:
I'll happily take the hulk of your hands so you can upgrade.


A bit late dude. Price of the Hulk is going down fast.
Judas Lonestar
Stryker Industries
Stryker Group
#10 - 2012-08-11 19:21:41 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Judas Lonestar wrote:
I'll happily take the hulk of your hands so you can upgrade.


A bit late dude. Price of the Hulk is going down fast.


I still, for now, prefer hulks so it would be nice to get another docked up. They look pretty spinning in bay, and givr you good collateral in the dice games I frequent after a hard days mining.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-08-11 21:28:44 UTC
chandraboy wrote:
Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them upOops

First rule of CCP: Fix what is not broken!

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-08-11 22:22:33 UTC
Judas Lonestar wrote:
I'll happily take the hulk of your hands so you can upgrade.

are we talking numbers? cause i got one lying around...

I should buy an Ishtar.
Judas Lonestar
Stryker Industries
Stryker Group
#13 - 2012-08-12 00:15:05 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Judas Lonestar wrote:
I'll happily take the hulk of your hands so you can upgrade.

are we talking numbers? cause i got one lying around...


Well lets be honest, you dont seem to be complaining so you'd want market value. When I say "happily take it off your hands" to someone who has tearz that should be interpreted as "at a sweetheart deal you probably wouldnt like, but will get you to STFU" Big smile
Sigras
Conglomo
#14 - 2012-08-12 01:23:22 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit.


with 2 MLU II and T2 crystals in a hulk with perfect skills and no booster, it mines 1,547 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,641 m^3 per cycle

3 MLU II and T2 crystals in a mackinaw with perfect skills and no booster, makes it mine 2,008 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,016 m^3 per cycle

TL;DR
the hulk is still 15% better than the mack in yield even with the third MLU II
ariel jade
Terran Colonial Guard
#15 - 2012-08-12 01:39:07 UTC
chandraboy wrote:
Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them upOops



I just noticed to day the te expanded Cargo was not working on my Hulk anymore.
Alara IonStorm
#16 - 2012-08-12 06:46:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Sigras wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit.


with 2 MLU II and T2 crystals in a hulk with perfect skills and no booster, it mines 1,547 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,641 m^3 per cycle

3 MLU II and T2 crystals in a mackinaw with perfect skills and no booster, makes it mine 2,008 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,016 m^3 per cycle

TL;DR
the hulk is still 15% better than the mack in yield even with the third MLU II

Bolded the part you missed.

OP said:

chandraboy wrote:
you removed 50percent of my capacity

And I said.
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit.

Never said a Mackinaw mines faster then a yield Hulk.
Dave Stark
#17 - 2012-08-12 08:05:12 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Sigras wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit.


with 2 MLU II and T2 crystals in a hulk with perfect skills and no booster, it mines 1,547 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,641 m^3 per cycle

3 MLU II and T2 crystals in a mackinaw with perfect skills and no booster, makes it mine 2,008 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,016 m^3 per cycle

TL;DR
the hulk is still 15% better than the mack in yield even with the third MLU II

Bolded the part you missed.

OP said:

chandraboy wrote:
you removed 50percent of my [u]capacity

And I said.
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit.

Never said a Mackinaw mines faster then a yield Hulk.


considering the hulk's ore bay alone is bigger than it's cargo capacity pre patch and op is complaining about losing cargo space...

op confirmed for fail fitting and not buying a mackinaw because :stupid:
Roan Pico
I- T I E -I
#18 - 2012-08-12 13:31:16 UTC
chandraboy wrote:
Ccp you suck seriously you removed 50percent of my capacity and i should be happy for you allowing me to pay to playi know peeps who are goiing to quit playing becauuse of your action why. Cant you leave the good thing alone why do you always mess them upOops


<3
Motoko Kusanagui
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-08-12 15:08:11 UTC
The new Mackinaw mines more than the old Hulk fitted to max cargohold, please read before angry posting.

Miners these changes are for best.
Sigras
Conglomo
#20 - 2012-08-12 15:21:05 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Sigras wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Not only that but to get the old Cargo Hulks big capacity you lose the MLU's. The Mackinaw can fit up to 3 giving it about the same yield as the Hulk with more capacity then it could ever fit.


with 2 MLU II and T2 crystals in a hulk with perfect skills and no booster, it mines 1,547 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,641 m^3 per cycle

3 MLU II and T2 crystals in a mackinaw with perfect skills and no booster, makes it mine 2,008 m^3 per strip miner for a total of 4,016 m^3 per cycle

TL;DR
the hulk is still 15% better than the mack in yield even with the third MLU II

Bolded the part you missed.

yep though i was responding to the flawed notion that the Mackinaw has "about the same yield" as the Hulk; 15% is not "about the same"

by that logic why not get a retriever? its got "about the same yield" and "about the same ore bay"
or why ever get an implant? its "about the same as not having one"
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