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For those who want to nerf PvE (Mission Running)
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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#1 - 2012-08-10 20:13:55 UTC
CCP has provided you with all the tools you need to jump inside the mission and ruin the mission runner's day. If you are incompetent in doing so, it's your problem, not a game problem. Please stop asking CCP to do your job for you.

If you are clueless as per what to do, please head over to C&P and ask for directions.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Anslo
Scope Works
#2 - 2012-08-10 20:19:29 UTC
Or just go out to low and nul and blast each other you mindless heathen cretins. We 1%ers want nothing to do with your trash.

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Pipa Porto
#3 - 2012-08-10 20:45:55 UTC
I haven't seen a thread about nerfing level 4s in a while. Who are you talking to?

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Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
T O P S H E L F
#4 - 2012-08-10 20:47:04 UTC
There was one earlier, its gone now but it was there.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#5 - 2012-08-10 20:48:39 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
I haven't seen a thread about nerfing level 4s in a while. Who are you talking to?


Nerf Bounties, Move l4 out of high sec, etc... they pop up weekly.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-08-10 20:52:39 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
I haven't seen a thread about nerfing level 4s in a while. Who are you talking to?



Probably to all of those carebears who don't know he can go there and bait them with a cheapo throw away frig and then come back with a spec ship to kill it.

Another uber Elite PVP thread... what would we do without them?
Answer: the game would be better for everyone.

brb
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-08-10 20:53:39 UTC
L4s don't need to be nerfed. Nullsec ratting needs to be buffed.

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#8 - 2012-08-10 20:59:50 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
L4s don't need to be nerfed. Nullsec ratting needs to be buffed.


Just a little bit, and they need to make it harder to rat with capital ships.

Level 4's are fine. Most serious runners will only invest a couple bil at most on an efficient ship and farm LP's to sell faction stuff. It feeds the market and it does not creates money (most of it, anyway) out of thin ice.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
#9 - 2012-08-10 21:07:04 UTC
Change can be good. Don't be afraid.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#10 - 2012-08-10 21:09:00 UTC
Oh man, I thought those threads were just opportunities for trolling...

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Ginger Barbarella
#11 - 2012-08-10 21:21:16 UTC
I wonder if EveO is getting to a place where all the constant changes (plus and minus) will begin to affect the userbase's willingness to continue playing. No, I'm not saying it's dying. Just wondering if CCP has considered just chilling out for a while and letting the player base get comfortable with the game as it is...

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-08-10 21:35:59 UTC
I miss threads from mission runners complaining about ninja salvagers.

There were plenty when i started playing, but i don't see any anymore. :(
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-08-10 21:41:00 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
L4s don't need to be nerfed. Nullsec ratting needs to be buffed.


This... so much. My income from ratting Serpentis was many many many times more than mission running ever was.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-08-10 21:55:59 UTC
Mission runners tend to run missions to make isk to run missions better till they get ganked in their 15 bil golem and quit.

Theres should be some direction for players to take that gently gets them into other aspects of eve, perhaps a cap on agents total missions he/she can hand out for a player?

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Ensign X
#15 - 2012-08-10 22:01:39 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
Theres should be some direction for players to take that gently gets them into other aspects of eve, perhaps a cap on agents total missions he/she can hand out for a player?


Terrible idea. You can't force somebody to play the game you want. What's next? A cap on the amount of PI products you can produce in one month? A cap on the number of Sleeper NPCs you can blow up? Cap the number of jumps Freighter pilots can make? Sorry, but it's back to the drawing board for you.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#16 - 2012-08-10 22:06:12 UTC
Ensign X wrote:
Muad 'dib wrote:
Theres should be some direction for players to take that gently gets them into other aspects of eve, perhaps a cap on agents total missions he/she can hand out for a player?


Terrible idea. You can't force somebody to play the game you want. What's next? A cap on the amount of PI products you can produce in one month? A cap on the number of Sleeper NPCs you can blow up? Cap the number of jumps Freighter pilots can make? Sorry, but it's back to the drawing board for you.

Yeah that actually makes little sense.

Besides, I hear l4s are pretty damn boring and their own punishment. I'm just about to do some standings grinding so we'll see..

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-08-10 22:11:40 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
Mission runners tend to run missions to make isk to run missions better till they get ganked in their 15 bil golem and quit.

Theres should be some direction for players to take that gently gets them into other aspects of eve, perhaps a cap on agents total missions he/she can hand out for a player?

Just how many different multibillion isk mission running rigs are you encountering on your travels?
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#18 - 2012-08-10 22:12:21 UTC
There are like 5 people who think lvl 4s need a nerf. Most just think they just need improvements.
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
#19 - 2012-08-10 22:12:49 UTC
The whole PVE system needs a revamp. How missions are done and rewards, also how loot works(in general). Sadly most will cry foul and say its a nerf because they are too stuck in their ways to see how damaging the current system really is. Not only from a economic standpoint but also from a new player retention aspect.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-08-10 22:20:19 UTC
Okay a flat out limit on missions was way too harsh, what i mean to say is how about adding soming that gets them into probing plexing sometimes, or pvp or whatever really. Give qa huge bonus to the mission rewards for missions out of the 'normal' like the once in 100 combat missions thats a hauling mission, that everyone turns down instantly.

I did my fair share of agent running but it got boring so i sought out other fun to do with my mission isk.

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