Ships & Modules

I know two ways to fit a ship for PVP. Either an AB with a scram or a MWD with a warp disruptor. As I get closer to flying cruisers and looking at some of the fits people post I keep seeing a lot of fits with a MWD and a scram. I've even fought some frigates set up like this such as Merlins ect.

How does a fit like that work? Fitting a scram with a MWD instead of using a warp disruptor means you also will be in scram range. This also means if the enemy has a scram your MWD is going to be shut off and you cannot even hope to dictate range (assuming your not dual prop fit).

I guess you just rely on short and long range ammo and just let your enemy pick the range you fight at?

I guess you just have to hope he doesn't have an AB, scram AND web. Or you just fall back on long range ammo if he does, which probably isn't ideal.

You are pointing one of the weakness of the brawling gallente ships, once they are engaged in battle, they lack the possibility to easily disengage. It's usually compensated by their high dps and the idea that the fight will be ending quickly.

However, you won't see that much ships with sp, making the use of a mwd less dangerous than it seems.

If you want to get close to people trying to run away = MWD to catch up and Scrambler to shut him down
If you want to kite (run away) = MWD to keep range and Disruptor to keep people from warping out

Afterburner works best if you can get people to come close and then shut them down with a warp scrambler or find bigger people that are so much slower than you exploiting your smaller signature.

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If you had him scrammed he would have needed two warp stabs to warp off , you shure he didn't burn out of range ?

I think MWD are better all around tbh. AB only seems to work when you are in a fast ship that can go faster than a bigger ship with mwd.

I think the main problem is that on small scale fight of you don't have speed you are ****** , which is why i think armor tanking should be revised.

Keep in mind that in null, there's always the possibility of bubbles, so MWDs are generally the prop mod of choice. You get out of or through bubbles a lot quicker with an MWD than with an AB. Sorry, stating the obvious, I know. That may be where the fits you're seeing listed are intended for use.

I often use a MWD fit punisher as my brawling Amarr frigate.

It gos about 2.6km/s which is nothing compared to the faster frigs bit it surprises many as they expect a slow brick of a thing.

Once i'm engaged I'm counting being scrammed and webbed so the MWD is to get the fight to happing in the first place. With scorch and IN MF I have complete ability to hit anywhere in scram range.
True I can't dictate range and often my prey tries to pull range to escape. As soon as I see that happening I OH my scram and approach while toggling the MWD....most of the time my target break scram range and my MWD kicks me back into range so he can't get away. If they are smart and OH scram as well then they can run.

But I much prefer the MWD on a lot of ships where I feel the ability to actually force and engagement is preferable to the ability to control range once engaged.

But I also love AB'ing under a larger ships guns without the sig penalty....so options are good.

Ya I was just thinking about re-doing my Punisher fits like this. What if your ship has enough range not to be kited? Like a Navy Omen with scorch that hits out to 20k? Still ok to use an AB then? Thanks for all the advice btw.