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Christy D Floyd
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-09 12:35:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Christy D Floyd
You would have to have been living under a rock lately to not see the changes to eve and the simpicity that is being implemented but one wonders is this a direct result of the popular child game wow and its recent sub loss. If WOW is losing subs faster than football players at penn state where are they going? Eve possibly? Do you think refugees from other mmos will impact eve and how long will they stay and to what extent will CCP modify eve to retain these refugees?

Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons.
pussnheels
Viziam
#2 - 2012-08-09 12:39:42 UTC  |  Edited by: pussnheels
Christy D Floyd wrote:
You would have have to have been living under a rock lately to not see the changes to eve and the simpicity that is being implemented but one wonders is this a direct result of the popular child game wow and its recent sub loss. If WOW is losing subs faster than football players at penn state where are they going? Eve possibly? Do you think refugees from other mmos will impact eve and how long will they stay and to what extent will CCP modify eve to retain these refugees?


What simplicity , GAWD why are people convinced that CCP is trying to dumb down the game , only thing they are trying to do is to make it more accesible for new players , it is STIL the SAME game as 4 years ago

and lets be honest , EVE isn't really that hard to learn , there is just so much to learn thatit sometimes overwhelms new players

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Dave stark
#3 - 2012-08-09 12:43:16 UTC
yep quality of life changes make the game easier for the bads.
Frying Doom
#4 - 2012-08-09 12:44:13 UTC
I don't believe CCP is trying to dumb down the game they are just trying to lessen the initial learning curve that most people run into and run away from almost immediately.

There also fixing the crappy balance issues and hopefully a lot of the faulty designs we have had to live with for years.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#5 - 2012-08-09 12:44:18 UTC
Christy D Floyd wrote:
You would have to have been living under a rock lately to not see the changes to eve and the simpicity that is being implemented but one wonders is this a direct result of the popular child game wow and its recent sub loss. If WOW is losing subs faster than football players at penn state where are they going? Eve possibly? Do you think refugees from other mmos will impact eve and how long will they stay and to what extent will CCP modify eve to retain these refugees?


First, with a tin foil hat, I must say I hope they don't child it down. I love a scary game personally.

Second, refugees will look for promising games and if eve sparks their interest, then yes, they will get refugees.

Third, Why am I talking in numbers?

Fourth, ???

Fifth: Make it funner, easier to find people to play with, since the social aspect is so huge. I miss being in a non-tax evasion corp. :(
veritas primus
Kat 5 Kaos
#6 - 2012-08-09 12:45:17 UTC
The thing killing Blizzard is a bunch of bean counters making game decisions that don't play games.

When Activision "merged" with Blizzard it was the beginning of the End for that company.

I would like to think CCP makes better decisions...true they changed a few things but if it was Blizzard buffing lets say .. Mining barges they would have just thrown in a flat shield/armor hitpoint buff and rolled on. CCP makes it interesting, always has.....always will.
Rengerel en Distel
#7 - 2012-08-09 12:46:56 UTC
OP: "Yeah, if I've had to play a ****** game for 8 years, everyone else should too! CCP should never improve anything!
/bittervet"

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#8 - 2012-08-09 12:47:00 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
I don't believe CCP is trying to dumb down the game they are just trying to lessen the initial learning curve that most people run into and run away from almost immediately.

There also fixing the crappy balance issues and hopefully a lot of the faulty designs we have had to live with for years.


While the first part is a goal, and not really a bad one. The second parts requires reworking the code. I'm sure there is some nasty stuff in there if you get down to it. Making it easier to make changes later on will make it faster to apply updates and add new things and edit/balance existing ones.
Jess Maine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-08-09 12:49:22 UTC
Posting in a stealth "I'm unsubbing" thread.
Pilna Vcelka
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-08-09 12:52:35 UTC
I dont think WoW is losing subs to EVE. Its GW2 that both WoW and EVE will lose a big chunk of playerbase to.

Also, its good theyre making the game better for new players. Nobody cares about bitter vets really.
Dave stark
#11 - 2012-08-09 12:55:25 UTC
wow is just losing subs because it's such an old game that's going stale and offering nothing new or interesting.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-08-09 12:56:17 UTC
This is by far the stupidest thread I've seen... today. I'll keep an eye on these forums and maybe something even dumber will come along.

Summary of EvEs last four expansions: http://imgur.com/ZL5SM33
Frying Doom
#13 - 2012-08-09 12:58:07 UTC
Goremageddon Box wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
I don't believe CCP is trying to dumb down the game they are just trying to lessen the initial learning curve that most people run into and run away from almost immediately.

There also fixing the crappy balance issues and hopefully a lot of the faulty designs we have had to live with for years.


While the first part is a goal, and not really a bad one. The second parts requires reworking the code. I'm sure there is some nasty stuff in there if you get down to it. Making it easier to make changes later on will make it faster to apply updates and add new things and edit/balance existing ones.


Yeah they have said some of there old code is a mess and that it would be less work to re-write it rather than try to fix the old code. Like the POS code.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-08-09 13:01:29 UTC
Christy D Floyd wrote:
You would have to have been living under a rock lately to not see the changes to eve and the simpicity that is being implemented but one wonders is this a direct result of the popular child game wow and its recent sub loss. If WOW is losing subs faster than football players at penn state where are they going? Eve possibly? Do you think refugees from other mmos will impact eve and how long will they stay and to what extent will CCP modify eve to retain these refugees?


If CCP wanted millions of subs, all they had to do was remove non-consensual PvP. That's all it would take for EVE's population to jump up by an order of magnitude. See Ultima Online and Trammel.
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-08-09 13:03:03 UTC
It takes a special kind of person to believe that interface improvements are dumbing down the game (and are meant to).
Vel'drinn
Sanguine Vipers
#16 - 2012-08-09 13:03:32 UTC
I appreciate devs changing things that remove pointless clicking or sub menus. Plenty more optimization left to go but they're moving in the right direction.

Go CCP Cool
Josef Djugashvilis
#17 - 2012-08-09 13:03:47 UTC
Christy D Floyd wrote:
You would have to have been living under a rock lately to not see the changes to eve and the simpicity that is being implemented but one wonders is this a direct result of the popular child game wow and its recent sub loss. If WOW is losing subs faster than football players at penn state where are they going? Eve possibly? Do you think refugees from other mmos will impact eve and how long will they stay and to what extent will CCP modify eve to retain these refugees?


Troll, pure and simple.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#18 - 2012-08-09 13:09:48 UTC
hurr hurr stoopid kidz tooturial mekin me luk less herd cere. y so fael wow players, u mad u mad UMAD???

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CCP Prism X
C C P
C C P Alliance
#19 - 2012-08-09 13:11:59 UTC
I, for one, think it is imperative to EVEs continued success and the health of our community to keep the corporation role management from actually displaying a horizontal scrollbar or just show all the available roles in a readable format. People that are too stupid to understand that data is hidden from them, or too lazy to look everywhere they cannot look for data that might potentially be there but probably isn't, don't deserve to be informed.

In case you don't know me, which you probably don't, and thus cannot infer implied meaning from my text: This is obvious sarcasm.

CCP Prism X

Programmer on Team Gridlock & Expert Ranter
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#20 - 2012-08-09 13:13:46 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
Christy D Floyd wrote:
You would have to have been living under a rock lately to not see the changes to eve and the simpicity that is being implemented but one wonders is this a direct result of the popular child game wow and its recent sub loss. If WOW is losing subs faster than football players at penn state where are they going? Eve possibly? Do you think refugees from other mmos will impact eve and how long will they stay and to what extent will CCP modify eve to retain these refugees?


If CCP wanted millions of subs, all they had to do was remove non-consensual PvP. That's all it would take for EVE's population to jump up by an order of magnitude. See Ultima Online and Trammel.



Yes it's puzzling that CCP don't want EVE to emulate the runaway success story that is UO.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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