Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Just a thought, wouldn't it be nice to have a ship able to lay (and clear) space mines and thus creating minefields?


Just think of the extra dimension it gives when you can defend your space by laying minefields around your valuable assets. Mines will have poximity detection and go off when you are to close. This might be a nice niche role for a new destroyer hull (since we only have one atm). It will have a launcher that launches mines every x seconds or so. Traveling with a certain speed will put down a nice row of mines at fixed intervals. The destroyer will be non magnetic and the only ship to get close enough to disable and pick up the mines. They can ofc be shot to create a passage. Give them some decent resists and it will take time giving the defending side more reaction time.

To make sure EVE space wont get littered with mines and minefields the mines can only be deployed in 0.0 and WH space and will last a fixed amount of days untill they deterorate and fall apart.

Was allready in eve!

but if u dont limit it hard u will have like 1000mines per gate what will destroy performance.
thats why they took it out :)

So, there's no chance what so ever to avoid them? You can't react unless you can find them.

A small gang enters a new system. They uncloak... everyone dies because the gate has been mined heavily.

Well specialized ships can detect them maybe a nice new role as well for stealth bommers. The can detect the mines and lob bombs into the minefield clearing a path. To make sure gates and stations and such arent packing with mines there should be some restrictions as to how close mines can be laued.

But would be fun. You are in a war with a corp and they just dock and wait till you leave. You can now lay minefields around the station beyond the undock perimeter so they need to clear that 1st before they go back to safe ratting and stuff.

No No hold up.. just because their were issues before does not mean those issues can not be worked out.

Require mines be:
visible because hidden is kinda silly...
un-target-able (just like probes)
Anchored (like mobile warp disruption bubbles)(CCP can also limit the security level required to anchor)
A minimum distance from other objects in space (just like secure containers)
A minimum distance from stargates (far enough the blast radius can not catch ships warping to gate at 0km).
Make them expensive so they are not just left lying around but unanchored and picked up (1-5M or more each depending on bomb size and effect it is given)

This would limit their usefullness to a degree so they don't get overused and so tightly packed they cause lag. The details can be tweaked by CCP to what they think the server can support and what effect it would have on ships in game. I could see all sorts of gameplay options. Small gangs could deploy 4-5 of these along with some warp disruption bubbles.

The mine sweeper could just be a mod rather then a ship and would have a smart bomb like pulse that would detonate bombs in it's range witch would be far enough out to prevent taking damage from the detonation itself but only by a small margin (say 500 meters) so that it would be a more tedious operation to clear them.

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You could have bombs of more then 1 size with bombs having different uses and roles.

smaller mines could be packed a bit tighter but would deal less damage and have a smaller blast range and faster velocity allowing better damage to smaller targets.

on the other extreme

extra large mines could pack a serious punch and deal significant damage to large ships with smaller and faster targets being almost invulnerable to it allowing them to swoop in and detonate them to protect a fleet.

I wouldn't find that fun at all. Surprise, everyone's dead because someone I can't shoot back did something days ago that I couldn't stop or effectively avoid because we wanted a fun fight with assualt frigates and interceptors as opposed to a blob complete with bomber scouts.

I also can't help but imagine that it would critically weaken small gangs in null sec. It couldn't possibly work in High Sec or Low Sec. And keeping it off gate by X-many meters makes them largely toothless because they wouldn't be close enough to hit anything important.

I don't think it's a terrible idea, but it needs to be thought out more/better. I would even prefer them to spoof jet cans, and act as a deployable turret, ECM point, or Repper like we have drones. At least then I can sell it as a way for miners to counter-gank pirates.

Honestly, you'd be more likely to see the EVE equivalent to IDEWs. Independantly Deployed Energy Weapons. More specifically it would be more likely that CCP would agree to considering an anchorable platform that has its own built-in reactor and requires fuel like a POS' tower but also fits the power of one or two of the smaller turrets. If done well it would allow for people to seed a couple defense turrets around a gate or some other object for extra firepower without overloading the environment like dumping 5,000 mines would.

It would also add some use to the Starbase Defense Management skill if these remote deployable platforms were treated as starbase weapon systems for the purposes of players assuming direct control.

Between the fuel consumption and, perhaps, a minimum safe clearance for deploying other similar structures to prevent them from being clustered together, and to limit the number you can fit in a given volume, it shouldn't be too hard to avoid overloading any given grid with them.