EVE New Citizens Q&A

Simplest solution is get the recommended certificates (I don't fly amarr, so this is gonna be in general).

Lasers use a lot of cap, so cap skills.
Amarr are primarily armour tankers, so armour tanking skills.
Gunnery support skills to improve tracking, damage, etc. Also Weapon Upgrades (and Advanced Weapon Upgrades) to reduce CPU/PG usage of the turrets ...

When testing out a new ship/fit just stay aligned to a station you can dock at. That way if you get worried you can warp out and dock to repair, granted you aren't scrammed.

With level 3 skills you should be fine. At least I was with the Hurricane and level 3 skills... I don't fly Amarr specifically.

Also, plates are more of a buffer tank. This is when you try to hold out long enough so you can kill your enemy or receive reps from 3rd party (aka logistics).

Usually for mission you want to have an internal repair module (armour repper) and mission specific hardeners. When you have spare low-slots, throw on a Damage Control (non stackable resists across the board) and some heat sinks for extra DPS.

Missions (PvE) = low incoming DPS but at a fixed rate so you need have a sustainable tank that can migitate that DPS.

PvP = high incoming DPS but usually short time. So you fit buffer and hope your enemy runs / dies before you have to run / die.

The first thing you need to do for Amarr is to hate anyone different than you

Train up your core skills. Particularly when you're moving into larger ships like a Harbinger, it really starts to show when you haven't.

Here's a basic PvE harbinger for a new player. Carry Standard, Multifrequency, and Radio crystals. The Focused Medium Pulse Lasers are there only if you have fitting problems; fit as many Heavy Pulse Lasers on as you can. (They're the same basic gun type; the Focused ones are simply lower-power, lower-dps, slightly faster-tracking versions of the Heavies.) Rigs are only if you can afford them, if you can't it's no big deal.


[Harbinger, Starter Harbinger]

Medium Armor Repairer I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Adaptive Nano Plating I
Tracking Enhancer I
Heat Sink I
Heat Sink I

10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger I
Cap Recharger I

Heavy Pulse Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
Heavy Pulse Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
Heavy Pulse Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
[Empty High slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin I x4
Hammerhead I x3

Scramblers in L3 are not something unheard of. Not every mission have them, by far, and most support frigs will just web. But occasional scramble happens.

Guidelines:

Ship skill:
- Battlecruiser II is enough, but having more levels helps with cap and DPS. Feel free to get BC III or even more if you will fly them (or command ships) later - they belong to a nice class of ships that are inbetween throwaway T1 hulls and relatively expencive BS and T2s while combining good functionality with ok price. Young wormholers use them a lot, and not just they.

Armour skills:
If you are going to do missions, you can get away with meta repper and T1 tank (just don't do missions with high payout), but I'd recommend to get those:
- Repair systems IV
- Mechanics IV
Those will allow you to use T2 repper. To get T2 resistance modules, train Hull upgrades V. Note that this is very important for armour tanking pilot.

Cap skills:
Amarr ships, nuff said. Get those skills:
- Energy system operation IV
- Energy management III
- Controlled bursts III
- Energy grid upgrades III (to use t2 cap rechargers)
The last one is gunnery skill, but it affects cap usage, so yeah. You can get away with all III, but I feel much more comfortable with level IV (except grid upgrades) tbh. That's not a long train and it's worth it. Also being rank I skill, Energy system operation V is something you can get without commiting too much once you feel your performance is fine and you don't need something else ASAP.

Drone skills:
You'd better get those. If you are going to fly anything even remotedly big, you'll damn need them.
- Drones V
- Drone interfacing III
- Scout drone operation II (the more the better, but to remove annoying things hanging below your guns you don't need range; however, you'll probably wish to add more DPS at range to kill kiting elite NPCs, so get it if you feel this way; don't forget you'll ned this skill to V to use T2 drones though)
- Combat drone opeartion
- Drone durability
- Drone navigation
- Drone sharpshooting
Latter are not crucial (as in: you won't have ), but get some levels to boost their performance.

Gunnery skills:
The more, the better
- Gunnery
- Medium energy turret
- Motion prediction
- Rapid firing
- Sharpshooter
- Surgical strike
- Trajectory analysis (not that important, but pretty significant for large guns later, if you'll use them)

Fitting skills as needed.
- Engineereing
- Electronics
- Weapon upgrades (you')

Those should work well. Note that you can use your BC to grind L2s faster (and probably safer) than in cruiser if you don't feel that you are ready for L3s just yet. You'll have no problems usually associated with "overhulling" because BCs don't use larger guns and thus don't have more tracking problems than cruisers.



I'd disagree with this one. For someone new to L3s it's undertanked. If you are going to PvE, you know what damage type you'll be recieving, so you'd better off with hardeners. Also, radio crystals are horrible, it's not even funny. However, you can sometimes use radios and tracking comp if you are in Amarr space, long range engagements there are common. I'd say, get multifrequency to break tanks of occasional elite frigate faster (esp. angels and minmatar ones, they have decent EM resistance so you'll need all DPS you can throw at it). Standard and MW are still recommended. Also, if you have ok fitting skills, don't leave utility high slot empty, get medium nosferatu.

Here's another fit:

[Harbinger PvE]

Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Armor Explosive Hardener I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Medium 'Accomodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Heat Sink I
Heat Sink I

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I

Hobgoblin I x5
Warrior I x5

Note: Swap armor hardeners to match enemies you are going to face in mission (check this); downgrade everything you can't afford/fit. You may replace one of them with tracking computer. Replace one heat sink with with DCU if you want more tank.

You probably have engineering and electronics to a decent level now. Get them maxed so most things you want will fit.
Focus on your tank now. Basic rule for all missions is " as long as you can tank the damage, everything else will work out fine". Sure it might take you bit longer because of low dps but you will get there. Would advice drones 4 as well to get some extra cheap damage.
I see that you joined the university so you will probably be joining fleets that will help with the dps. Survivability should be your first concern.

For your tank focus on hull upgrades skill (will allow you to fit hardeners etc and adds 5% to armor tank hp/lvl) and repair systems (armor reps) first, also get your armor compensation skills to lvl 3 so your hardeners and energized plating are more effective. You do NOT need a plate at all. They slow your ship down and are more common in pvp builds. You do not need them for mission running (especially not lvl3s). Better invest in making your tank unbreakable.

After that it's your basic Core skills that you can find plenty of lists of. It's basically all the skills mentioned in the "core" certificate. Take your time but you will need those to fly any ship efficiently.

Welcome to Eve and fly safe o/


edit: Forgot to mention that plates also use massive powergrid which you probably can't spare at the moment with limited core skills and (I assume) no powergrid implants.

I've recently started doing L3's in a Harbinger and you really need T2 hardeners and armor rep at MINIMUM. Without them, you'll pop like a pop rock. Like others have said, get your cap-related skills up so you can actually use those and your guns and be cap stable.

Also - some missions are really abusive to pulse laser harby's because of ranged missile NPC's. I had one mission I couldn't even get close enough because even the T2 hardener couldn't keep up. Beam lasers are your friends here and will give you more firepower.

So focus on T2 Armor Tank - Lasers - and if you can swing it, drones. The extra DPS is extremely helpful.

If you PVE, use a drake... seriously.