EVE General Discussion

... CONCORD reaction times doubled, CONCORD ships only in 1.0 systems using civilian guns, PvE ISK generation down to 10%, newbies starting with 0 SP, no local chat anywhere, mining ships having 100EHP and people with uberleet killboards paying hallf the standard subscription, no acceleration gates, etc. etc. yadda yadda

Basically all the bitter goon wet dreams.

I wonder, what would really happen if CCP actually listened to these sad and lonely children?

Definitely not the same thing as in 2003.

The world has changed. The competition has changed. The players have changed.

With graphics being 8 years newer, lots of actual PvP games out there or around the corner (hello GW2), MMO playerbase being way younger in average due to cheaper and easily accessible internet - would EVE really be a success? Would the playground be still even with most of the players having comparable experience, ISK and SP under their belt? Would there be challenge and fun?

I guess ****ing not.

Some of the weirdos would adapt. Most newbies would leave. With a terribad excuse for graphics, trizillion of spreadsheets and not even a remote chance of catching up with 5,6,7,8+ year old vets with hundreds of millions of SPs and hundreds of billions of ISK to support them, no sane newbie would even touch the stinky hardcore boredom.

There would be no challenge, because the only players bitter uberleet pvp vets could fight would be only other bitter uberleet pvp vets. Same fleet comps and blobs fighting the same fleet comps and blobs into eternity. Theyve seen it all before a hundred times.

So what would happen then? What would the goonscrubs and the like do?

Theyd keep on doing what they do now - exploiting every single chance of making someones weaker game experience miserable in the restored "super hardcore" environment until there would be noone to take advantage of except for people like themselves.

But wouldnt EVE be cool with only uberleet and die hard vets around?

No, it would suck big time as much as current 0.0 - supposedly space for veteran players - sucks.

People who know what to do and can replace any losses would only fight people who know what to do and can replace any losses. There would be no carebear tears, no drama and most of all not fun.

And thats why the bitter vets come to gank in highsec so much, thats why they hunt newbies down, thats why they hate the changes. Because theyre bored - their uberleet hardmode 0.0 warfare bores them do death. Theyve been there, done it a million times, nothing to see there, nothing to learn.

Only by taking the fun away from the weaker, the newer, the less experienced do they have fun. for a little while. Without newbies and carebears, bitter pvp vets would just unsub straight away, having nothing to do.

And thats why CCP needs to make the bitter vets GTFO

Because no matter what they do, the bitter vets will cry and hate even more. Theyve simply been around for too long. Theyre not bringing anything new or interesting to the game anymore. They only bring hate, forum crying and troll posting about how EVE is dying, EVE sucks, Im unsubbing after 8 years of having no-life (good for them!).

Let them uberleet pros go and lead EVE into 2012

Tell us more about how the game should be, 7 day old newbie corp member.

What a terribly horrid post, I am a newb and live in, fly back and forth from and to 0.0, your entire argument has been rendered invalid.

7 day old newbies pay the same sub fee as bitter vets.

CCP has a business to run after all.

Player run CONCORD.

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Good thing that no-one suggests anything even remotely resembling that, then.

Any other strawmen you want to rail against?

…oh, and…Good thing that “catching up” isn't really an applicable concept in EVE, unlike in most games, so those sane newbies have nothing to worry about.

or they're a (free) forum scrub alt of someone who's to afraid too post with their main.

anyway, starting with nearly no SP (you get 50k or something now, right?) is already in the game ... hell, when you started with 900k it was still "nearly nothing".



Edit -- Player CONCORD would be interesting ...

*Moist*

Back to wow snowflake.

I pray to the CCP gods that they make this game even more carebear friendly. Why do you ask?



1. Bitter old Vets quit and give me all there stuff.

2. Because the bitter old vets quit new rookie pilots join eve and we have something to shoot at now.

3. Bitter old Vets Quit.

4.Subcriptions go up and more revenue flows to CCP thus more ships better graphics and all round better game because they can afford to pump more content into it.

5. Bitter old Vets QUIT.


All those who flame or troll this post I hope you quit also.


If you dont like how eve works please QUIT I think everyone is sick of hearing from bitter old vets complain about how their game is ruined yet they dont understand its not their game it is CCP's.




TLDR: BITTER VETS PLEASAE QUIT.