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We train Foryou
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-08-05 08:41:29 UTC  |  Edited by: We train Foryou
Hi there.

Training characters is boring.

But I can let you focus on other things, and train a character, just for you.

Training will be from scratch, and I'll take you through the end result and keep you posted on any changes..

Things included as standard are:
Cybernetics 1
Set of +3 implants.

The rest is up to what you want!

The price is only 700mil per month, paid monthly, with an initial start-up fee of 500mil.

Not included in this price are:
+4, +5 or pirate implants.
t2 skillbooks from cruiser up (HIC, HAC, Recon etc)
Capital skillbooks
Ship.

Any of these extras must be paid for separately by the customer.

At the end of the training, the character will be sent to the account of your choice, with no charge.
Minimum training time of 3 months.
If money is not paid on time, the character will be brought to a sell worthy state and placed on the market.

You can choose race, bloodline, gender, name, etc.

If interested, post here, or mail in-game!

We train, For you!

*edit*
To clarify, the account will not be shared, and no account details will be released. Transfer of the character will be done by the CCP character transfer method

For those in doubt, a petition response from CCP:

Hello

We allow character transfers under certain conditions outlined here: http://support.eveonline.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=433

Training characters with certain skills requested by a third party is not relevant for a character transfer. You are all within your rights to train your characters any way you want.

However, please be also aware of the following points:
Account sharing (giving access to your account to someone else) is not allowed
Scams with character transfers are not allowed

Best regards,
CCP Phantom
Community Coordinator

The page linked gives no indication as to payment for a character.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2012-08-05 08:42:18 UTC
Sounds legit...

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Ms Kat
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-08-05 09:42:28 UTC
Only problem = highly against EULA.

Classed as sharing account details etc
Roger Steve
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-08-05 09:45:02 UTC
Ms Kat wrote:
Only problem = highly against EULA.

Classed as sharing account details etc



you got/read that wrong...as long as account details aren't shared until the sale, it is legit.
Tamur Shahni
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-08-05 09:48:26 UTC
It is a character sale more or less, but with a payment that is not done at once, but over time. This violates the CCP rules for character sales. Also, the chance to be scammed is quite high and if this really counts as a character sale the seller would be punished for scamming on the character market according to CCP rules.
I would be very careful here.
Korgan Medel
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-08-05 10:13:23 UTC
It is a rip off is what it is. 1.2 bil for the first month, I think I can manage to log in every day or so and manage it myself thanks.
hottest jita alt
Ex Cinere Venimus
Brothers of Tangra
#7 - 2012-08-05 11:07:52 UTC
given that if you want to purchase a specific character, around 1bn is the least you will pay for a character. it is not an unfair amount.
If you take into account the fact that the provider of this service pays for the account by PLEX, it is essentially 200m/month profit for this person.

This service would be very useful for people who want very specifically trained and named characters with close afk activities which do not require any skills beyond a certain point (such as mining, PI, production or invention characters) but don't want to halt their main characters' training. So once the characters are trained and ready, this seller transfers your custom-made character to your main account and presto!! no skills wasted, no silly name and best of all, your mains were training the whole time you were having alts trained.
ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-08-05 14:39:39 UTC
Thread moved from Character Bazaar to Sell Orders - ISD Type40.

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We train Foryou
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-08-06 08:56:09 UTC
Thank you, hottest jita alt :)

Bumpage
We train Foryou
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-08-07 11:40:40 UTC
Bump
none770
Therapy.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2012-08-07 12:40:41 UTC  |  Edited by: none770
Yeah, I mean the way I read it, its not against the rules... and to be honest like jita alt said it makes sense. I personally dont like having a toon that is not training, feels like a waste but this makes sense for alts and things like PI and mining toons.

Bump for an interesting idea..

Might I make a suggestion though which will require some capital, do the first one or two via a third party. Have them send the iskies to chribba to hold till the toon is finished. You will have to foot the bill for a bit but it will prove a legit service and will help to get you going.

To be honest when you get it up and running I can see you making a good thing going. Would be nice to have alts on all my accounts that do PI.

Also come up with some skillbook packs with slight discounts. Like preset up toon training plans. Where a customer can buy all the skillbooks at a little bit of a discount if they go with your pre planned toons. That way if you get stuck with a toon you can transfer it to the next guy right off the back and keep all the fees etc.
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-08-07 13:01:19 UTC  |  Edited by: shar'ra matcevsovski
as ihis is clearly a Char trade i just want to leave this here

Quote:

15. Lottery style sales are not permitted. Auctions and buyouts are the appropriate method for selling a character.
19. Down-payment plans are not supported by CCP Customer Support. As a seller, you are agreeing to a certain amount of ISK only, which is to be paid in one payment.


this service is clearly violating theses rules and eventually some others (scaming etc) there for I cant see this business beeing legit at all.

shar'ra phone home

Adoro
Below the Asteroids Ltd.
#13 - 2012-08-07 14:33:49 UTC
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
as ihis is clearly a Char trade i just want to leave this here

Quote:

15. Lottery style sales are not permitted. Auctions and buyouts are the appropriate method for selling a character.
19. Down-payment plans are not supported by CCP Customer Support. As a seller, you are agreeing to a certain amount of ISK only, which is to be paid in one payment.


this service is clearly violating theses rules and eventually some others (scaming etc) there for I cant see this business beeing legit at all.


Not true. You merely tell him to train something for you. When it comes down to actually transfering the character to you (thus the payment of 0 isk) , thats when the 'one payment' rule applies.

This is no down-payment plan what-so-ever. But also means you're not secured by the 'CCP No Character Scam'-rule.
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-08-07 15:07:30 UTC  |  Edited by: shar'ra matcevsovski
Adoro wrote:


Not true. You merely tell him to train something for you. When it comes down to actually transfering the character to you (thus the payment of 0 isk) , thats when the 'one payment' rule applies.

This is no down-payment plan what-so-ever. But also means you're not secured by the 'CCP No Character Scam'-rule.


Quote:
The price is only 700mil per month, paid monthly, with an initial start-up fee of 500mil.


can you read?

Quote:
This is no down-payment plan what-so-ever. But also means you're not secured by the 'CCP No Character Scam'-rule.


the traded item is still a charakter, nothing else, so yea both rules should still apply

Edit:
Copy/pasting petitions isnt allowed either...

shar'ra phone home

Elli M0o
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-08-07 17:14:16 UTC
ok, i am really confused here.

Now the initial cost is 500 mil and then 700 mil every month? So thats 1.2 bil for the first month which anyone can get for free by a buddy invite? Why cant someone plex an alt account on their own with far less cost per month?

I mean what is the advantage in paying for your service? is there something i cant see?
We train Foryou
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-08-07 17:46:07 UTC
Why doesn't everyone do everything for themselves? Maybe they don't have the time or the effort, they just have other things on. I mean what's the advantage in having a lawyer. You could do the same practice and training and never have to pay for one again.

The benefit is just that you don't have to do it yourself.

As for the one off thing. Yes, you're right, I didn't see that, but it can easily be amended to a one off payment.
none770
Therapy.
The Initiative.
#17 - 2012-08-07 18:23:28 UTC
Very Simple fix, you tell him what you want and when you get a bill when the toon is ready and wham character transferred. The only thing you would need to do is make sure you are creating toons you can resell and recoop all your losses. But other then that and the startup i dont see where this can go wrong.


Tbh I can see where some people wont like this but for those whos main gameplay style is PVP and they dont want to deal with the effort of making toons this is easier. Like I said when this is a proven service i wouldent mind having some datacore PI and cyno toons to fill my spare slots. Much easier then making them and paying the 2 plexes or 20 bucks to get them on to the right account. And i mean what 0.0 player doesetn need a covert cyno alt mining barge alt pi alt and or scanning scout?


We train Foryou
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-08-08 09:50:08 UTC
Thanks for the support :)

Rebump in case there's anyone out there who wants it!

Also, just rereading those rules, it doesn't say downpayment plans are against the rules. Merely that CCP customer services doesn't support them, ie if you get scammed (and I don't intend to scam you, CCP know the main who posted that petition for one) then you're on your own.

Anyway.
sodney
Tactical Feed.
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2012-08-08 11:55:54 UTC  |  Edited by: sodney
We train Foryou wrote:
Thanks for the support :)
Merely that CCP customer services doesn't support them, ie if you get scammed (and I don't intend to scam you, CCP know the main who posted that petition for one) then you're on your own.
.


just to clarify this:
All scams involving character transfers are prohibited.

Im preeetty sure that if you would really scam somebody with this, you actually would get trouble/banned.

be carefull with this, but I wish you the best for this service


EDIT:
Im also pretty sure that "not supported" means that its not allowed in this certain case, wich can easily be bypassed with a bill that the customer has to pay at the end of the contract etc.
We train Foryou
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-08-09 10:04:47 UTC
Yeah well obviously it's best to do a bill at the end then.

rebump :)
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