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Honestly, I love the changes CCP Greyscale is working on.

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Kino Mangeiri
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-08-05 21:42:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Kino Mangeiri
Garreth Vlox wrote:
Icecar wrote:
I'm reading all of the tears about how its harming pvp and you know what? Thats great. The one aspect of the game that takes the least amount of skill to do SHOULD be getting the nerf bat. PVP in this game is nothing but having the better ship or having more of them. I've been playing since 2009, I've been in high sec, null sec, and am now living in a wormhole, so I have experienced all kinds of pvp. Rarely has skill ever been a factor for the outcome of the fight. 99.999% of the time its just "Oh you caught these guys off guard great you blew up all your ships," or, "Oh you caught a guy in a ship that can't do anything to fight back against you so he loses just because."

Keep the changes coming CCP, I love them.


ROFL if you think PVP is the easy part of the game you have been running mission so long your brain is literally dead.

Now for those of us who want to know, show me on the map where the big bad T2 ship killed your hauler.


Gotta agree with this. Since when was PVP even remotely considered to be the "easy" part of the game, especially compared to the mindlessness of most PVE activities. The people dying to gate camps and such are the people not taking the time to properly prepare for travel through dangerous systems.

Not that I support gate camps... they are boring.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#22 - 2012-08-05 21:50:13 UTC
Icecar wrote:
I have experienced all kinds of pvp.

No you haven't. You have experienced all sorts of dying without having a say in the matter though, I'll give you that much.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Icecar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-08-05 21:53:01 UTC
Garreth Vlox wrote:
[quote=Icecar
Edit* you fit ships like this and complain you die?

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17122286

that fit would die to a well piloted cruiser for **** sake, and you think we need to learn to play? ROFL.

And what the **** is this supposed to be?

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10198888

4 blanks including the rigs? Either you don't have the skills to fly shinnies or you just don't know how to fit a ship.

My complaining has nothing to do with either of those loses. The Scorpion was a WH closing battleship I was using because I happened to find it for 66 mil. We had a hostile wh open in our system and I was closing by myself. On the jump in it went critical so I removed two armor plates on those hopes I wouldn't get stuck on the wrong side. Obviously it didn't work.

As for the Manticore, I'm pretty sure that was when I had first trained cov ops ships. Hayai Higashi is an IRL friend of mine who was in null at the time and I was just ******* around.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#24 - 2012-08-05 21:54:43 UTC
Basic algebra is very difficult to understand. You have to go to third grade and everything.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-08-05 21:57:48 UTC
Icecar wrote:
Rarely has skill ever been a factor for the outcome of the fight. 99.999% of the time its just "Oh you caught these guys off guard great you blew up all your ships," or, "Oh you caught a guy in a ship that can't do anything to fight back against you so he loses just because."

Engineering such one-sided situations is the skill.

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foxnod
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-08-05 22:00:02 UTC
You even managed to lose a drake to a solo wolf.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10209770
YuuKnow
The Scope
#27 - 2012-08-05 22:04:41 UTC
Wow, the trolls are feasting here.

Thread isn't about the K/D ratios, its about turret changes. Basically anti gate camp changes makes the game more interesting IMHO. If you want to perma-camp, go to null. Low Sec is a bit of a change now.

yk
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#28 - 2012-08-05 22:07:25 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
Wow, the trolls are feasting here.

Thread isn't about the K/D ratios, its about turret changes. Basically anti gate camp changes makes the game more interesting IMHO. If you want to perma-camp, go to null. Low Sec is a bit of a change now.

yk

I think we're simply tired of telling idiots that these changes wouldn't make low-sec less camped. There's only so many lemmings you can divert from the path off the cliff before you get tired and give up so that you can enjoy hearing the nice "splat" sounds they make.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-08-05 22:14:06 UTC
Icecar wrote:
Garreth Vlox wrote:
[quote=Icecar
Edit* you fit ships like this and complain you die?

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17122286

that fit would die to a well piloted cruiser for **** sake, and you think we need to learn to play? ROFL.

And what the **** is this supposed to be?

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10198888

4 blanks including the rigs? Either you don't have the skills to fly shinnies or you just don't know how to fit a ship.

My complaining has nothing to do with either of those loses. The Scorpion was a WH closing battleship I was using because I happened to find it for 66 mil. We had a hostile wh open in our system and I was closing by myself. On the jump in it went critical so I removed two armor plates on those hopes I wouldn't get stuck on the wrong side. Obviously it didn't work.

As for the Manticore, I'm pretty sure that was when I had first trained cov ops ships. Hayai Higashi is an IRL friend of mine who was in null at the time and I was just ******* around.


So you were flying around in badly fit ships not paying attention and someone who was ****** up your day, also if you fly a drake gate to gate through lowsec with out a scout I GUARANTEE you get killed in a gate camp or a roam or a solo killer because drakes die when used by themselves for solo pvp. And if you fly a shinny (cerb) through lowsec everyone who sees you will try to kill you.

There were these really cool things they discovered a long ******* time ago , they were called tactics, I recommended you get some.

The LULZ Boat.
Icecar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-08-05 22:18:09 UTC
Garreth Vlox wrote:

There were these really cool things they discovered a long ******* time ago , they were called tactics, I recommended you get some.

Tactics aka only fight what you can 100% kill without it fighting back aka one-sided rapefests aka again why I'm complaining about the pvp in eve
Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-08-05 22:20:51 UTC
Lexmana
#32 - 2012-08-05 22:21:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
Icecar wrote:
I'm reading all of the tears about how its harming pvp and you know what? Thats great. The one aspect of the game that takes the least amount of skill to do SHOULD be getting the nerf bat. PVP in this game is nothing but having the better ship or having more of them. I've been playing since 2009, I've been in high sec, null sec, and am now living in a wormhole, so I have experienced all kinds of pvp. Rarely has skill ever been a factor for the outcome of the fight. 99.999% of the time its just "Oh you caught these guys off guard great you blew up all your ships," or, "Oh you caught a guy in a ship that can't do anything to fight back against you so he loses just because."

Keep the changes coming CCP, I love them.

This just have to be a troll because no-one can be this stupid. But just in case it is not. Just because you die all the time doesn't mean that PvP is easy. And just because you're skills rarely comes to play doesn't mean other players skills doesn't. Maybe they have skills that you don't have? Maybe this game is to hard for you?
Icecar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-08-05 22:22:01 UTC
Garreth Vlox wrote:
foxnod wrote:
You even managed to lose a drake to a solo wolf.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10209770


And to top that one.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9670581

So its only ok to blob if you do it?

And no it wasn't just once.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9659540

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9659539

Thanks for missing my point entirely, which is that the only way you can successfully pvp in Eve is by participating in one-sided rapefests.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#34 - 2012-08-05 22:29:56 UTC
EVE is war, not sport, dum-dum.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#35 - 2012-08-05 22:30:00 UTC
Icecar wrote:
I've been in high sec, null sec, and am now living in a wormhole
I'm curious as to how you think the proposed changes are going to affect any of those areas. All I can think of is my army of gank-destroyer alts will find it so much easier to kill stuff on high-sec gates while under sentry fire. If you think that's a change for the better, then I wholeheartedly agree.

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-08-05 22:33:46 UTC
How the hell did the OP take 28k damage from 150mm Autocannons?

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-08-05 22:35:10 UTC
Icecar wrote:
Garreth Vlox wrote:
foxnod wrote:
You even managed to lose a drake to a solo wolf.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10209770


And to top that one.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9670581

So its only ok to blob if you do it?

And no it wasn't just once.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9659540

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9659539

Thanks for missing my point entirely, which is that the only way you can successfully pvp in Eve is by participating in one-sided rapefests.


Just because you can't win one on one doesn't mean other people can't it just means you suck and need to learn how to pvp. Also you need to understand that Solo pvp is almost completely gone, small gang warfare is still there but looking for solo fights is time consuming and you won't always find a solo kill. But when you do, like these you usually have to arrange it with your opponent.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12057174

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12057070

The LULZ Boat.
Lexmana
#38 - 2012-08-05 22:37:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
Icecar wrote:
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Thanks for missing my point entirely, which is that the only way you can successfully pvp in Eve is by participating in one-sided rapefests.

Maybe you should check out a few videos by players that actually know how to PvP and then decide if there is any skills involved because you're own skills are so limited that you actually don't know what you are talking about.

Check out Kil2s solo videos with commentaries (there are 14 of them) or eve-is-easy.

Maybe you will learn something?

Edit: And note that most fights start at a gate.
ashley Eoner
#39 - 2012-08-05 22:52:03 UTC  |  Edited by: ashley Eoner
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:
Icecar wrote:
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:
Because shooting red crosses takes a boatload of skill, right?

More than hurrrrrrrrr jump in a fleet on a single ship because who needs a challenge?

The reason for the anger.

Just because you get blobbed doesn't mean all PvPers are like that.



heh. It never fails does it? The ones who cry loudest about how PvP is sooo easy and takes sooo little skill are always the ones who are most dreadful failures at it.


Also, does anyone WTB these grapes? They're really sour.


That is a horrible k/d ratio Shocked

btw are those grapes still for sale?

Yeah doesn't he know he's only supposed to pvp when he's in a superior blob? How dare he not pad his killboard like true l337 s4uce pvpers like you!!

For those forum warriors that are overcompensating for their real life weakness. Not everyone focuses solely on gaining the highest amount of kills per loss possible. Some people just like to have fun and don't give a crap about numbers or pixels or anything that you cling to so desperately.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#40 - 2012-08-05 23:07:47 UTC
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:
Icecar wrote:
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:
Because shooting red crosses takes a boatload of skill, right?

More than hurrrrrrrrr jump in a fleet on a single ship because who needs a challenge?

The reason for the anger.

Just because you get blobbed doesn't mean all PvPers are like that.

Oh my, blobbers.

^____^

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