Intergalactic Summit

If history teaches anything, it's that the Empire is prone to responding to defiance with a punishment that is whole orders of magnitude greater than the defiant act. Knowing that it seems quite obvious that overt violent action is perhaps the worst possible route to take in this professed effort to improve the lot in life of any Ni-Kunni. If anything this will now cause undue suspicion to be raised against anyone delving into the Pre-Reclaiming period of Ni-Kunni history. Violence at this point not only is effectively pointless, but is detrimental to rediscovering things about the Ni-Kunni people that have been suppressed by Amarrian law.

Terrorist action is a bad thing, in my opinion, and further I think it's wholly ill-suited to this supposed "plight of the Ni-Kunni people." For the most part, Ni-Kunni tradition and belief has, sadly, been effectively wiped out or thoroughly changed to fit within Amarrian societal norms. Conversely Matari tradition and belief survived much more intact through generations of slavery and attempts to stamp it out thanks to the Matari habit of oral tradition. Now, it's entirely possible there are is a vast wealth of history, belief, and cultural knowledge being circulated in whispers among the Ni-Kunni, but these blatant attacks only seem to endanger and further force any hidden caches of knowledge out of sight. It's also worth noting that the vast majority of Ni-Kunni are quite happy living an Amarrian lifestyle, which has never been true of the vast majority of the Matari people.

So, what is the plan then? Will "freedom" be forced on the so called Amarrian collaborators when they clearly don't want it?

Define 'innocents'

Oh, great.

Since we're talking about predictions coming true here, let me add my own predictions to the mix. Let me tell you how this little charade is going to pan out.

As some of you may have picked up on, Mlle Ayanara is already well underway making her begging rounds within the public institutions of the Federation. She'll talk warmly about freedom and democracy, tell heartbreaking stories about the indignities and suffering her people are forced to endure at the hands of the Amarr, and present herself as an underdog hero.

Sooner or later (and unfortunately, I predict sooner) she will succeed in talking mist into the eyes of some idiot senator, or his wife, or his children. And once one public official falls for the ruse, others will follow. Before long, Federal taxpayers' money will be pouring into Mlle Ayanara's wallet, to fund her "noble struggle for freedom". It is possible that this will be an overt donation, but more likely, it will take the form of covert transactions, ostensibly to prevent it from causing "added diplomatic friction" with the Amarrian Empire. Incidentally, this secrecy will also serve to hide this scheme from the critical eyes of the Federal public at large.

Some of the funds so diverted will no doubt go into training and equipping impressionable young men and women to go and get killed in the name of this cause. What makes it even sadder is that these youths will not be the "bungling idiots" earlier described in this thread. They will be unformed intellectuals - intelligent enough to imagine a better life and ambitious enough to fight for it, but not yet experienced enough to apply critical thinking skills to what they are doing. While these youths do the killing, the bleeding and the dying, lending credibility to the struggle in the eyes of their sponsors, a considerable portion of leftover funds will quietly disappear into the pockets of Mlle Ayanara and her fellow ring leaders. And nobody will ever know.

And once their political tantrum fails, what then? Will those responsible all suffer the terrible retribution of the Amarr Empire?

Not at all. Oh, a considerable number of the young sacrificial fodder will no doubt be rounded up by Imperial forces and dealt with harshly, but they were expendable in any case. Mlle Ayanara herself, however, along with most if not all of the other people who actually matter within the movement, will make a miraculous getaway. They will slip across the border, into the Federation, taking care to look sufficiently haunted and bedraggled to inspire pity and sympathy.

They will ask for political asylum. They will get it. They will be housed, clothed and fed, all with public funds. If any Federal officials are even aware of how much more public money they've got squirreled away already, nobody will ever mention it aloud. Doing so would be highly politically inconvenient.

It doesn't stop there, of course. Mlle Ayanara will be asked to appear in newscasts. She will be invited to celebrity parties. She will, without a doubt, be approached by holo directors wishing to cast her for the leading role in the massive holofilm production that tells the "true" and over-emotional story about the brave but hopeless Ni-Kunni uprising. She will write a book about her experiences, and it will become a best-seller. Maybe she and her co-conspirators will even establish a mis-managed charity fund, with the purported aim of "aiding their brethren still in bondage". It all works out very nicely.

Contrary to the opinions of some in this thread, Mlle Ayanara is no idiot at all. She knows perfectly well what she is doing. She is, however, a crook.

Out in Solitude, we have long experience with these Ni-Kunni border runners, as they are popularly called. We know exactly what they're like.

I wish the Ni-Kunni all the best even if im half Gallente, half Ni-Kunni.

But i think that in case of the Amarr Empire a millitary solussion isn't the best one since you don't have the numbers like the Minmatar during their rebellion or any established relations with the Federation or the Republic, because they can to label you as a terrorist organization.

Also don't you think it would be more wise to first try a diplomatic solution and push into gaining a limited autonomy for Mishi or even whole Aridia. None of those solutions won't work if you don't have support from the Ni-Kunni them self and the outside groups.

Indeed. The God bestowed a purpose upon every race in the universe, and the Ni-Kunni are no exception.They fill the social niches they were created to fill; but like everyithing else in the world, every bonus has its darker side. The Ni-Kunni (i'm talking about the statistical majority, as in billions, here) make successful businessmen and artisans, but also good and obedient soldiers. Why? Probably because their inner drive, their divine purpose, commands them to succeed. To amass wealth, to climb the social ladder. And to express themselves. And this is a rather unique combination: for example, in a stereotypical Deteis we see a mix of businessman and scientist, in a Vherokior - a businessman and a seeker of the divine (unfortunately, 99% of those are utterly lost and are no more than tribal shamen of the worst kind, but still, their mind is open to the supernatural, as God made it to be).

What is the dark half to the Ni-Kunni's unique destiny? Of course, the adrenaline rush and search for freedom (for the artisans) and the greed that leads to all kinds of crime (to the businessmen). Combine it and you get your run of the mill border runner. Scrape that border runner a bit and reveal a heretic - a worshipper of the pagan spirits or a Sabik, it does not matter.

Everything is predefined. The only, and the main, choice left to the human, is: will he accept the Truth, or will he sink into the dark side leading to oblivion? Even the Brutor may make the Kameiras - but they can also make a lynch mob in Rens.

And this is the great test of faith that constitutes our lives.

Who is to blame that many Ni-Kunni give the wrong answer?

Aaaaaaaaand....here we go.

What constitutes said "collaboration" no doubt defined in a rather...aaahhh..."fluid" or "malleable" manner, no doubt influenced by things like what time of the month it is.

Why what has he said?

He’s playing political football, refocusing the issue on the impact of political immigrants. His is a recitation of Nimby indignation from a member of the most affluent class in the cluster, completely insulated from hardish.

My intelligence networks indicate that any ‘begging’ being done is directed towards the Ni-Kunni diaspora and a number of non-state actors not at government, who would hardly entertain terrorists. Whatever the impact of this incident, if it escalates, we will be sure to direct criticism at government cowardice if it fails to acknowledge the contribution of immigrants. There is a real role for government, after the necessary rounds of condemnation, and that is one of inquiry.

Here comes the difference between freedom fighters and professionals.

I would like to join the support of my house to yours. This is a mockery of due cause that these people move right to extreme and uncalled for tactics that can and we result in the death of countless lives.

To keep things simple however since you moved in first your men get rank priority.



Its really hard to define innocents to someone who clearly doesn't have one.

Hopefully this terrorist can be dealt with quickly and with a minimum lost of life.