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Where are the summaries???! I don't have time to read 5 million pages of geek chat.

What you are asking for is essentially here and here. I had those out within two weeks of the Summit concluding. I spent about 2 days on each of those blogs, watching the recordings of all the sessions and shooting for something that would at least let people know the basics of what was covered in each session. Even then, I hit damn near 12k words myself in those two blogs. If folks don't want to comb through the official minutes, they can read those blogs and still get a general idea of what we did.

Some interesting stuff in there. POS equipped with jumpdrives would be amazing, seriously! Don't dismiss this idea. Also some mechanic to counter on-grid probing in order to make sniping at high ranges viable would be nice.

As Amarr specialized pilot, I also feel the need to provide some feedback about the ideas that were brought up.

1) I agree that there should be an Amarrian T1 HAM ship that serves as stepping stone to the Sacrilege. I believe this ship should be the Prophecy so that the Maller can become the mini-Abaddon and the Omen can remain the mini-Zealot.

It would be good to have some T1 Amarrian cruiser that can use HAMs as well for a more continuous progression of the Khanid line of ships, and the Arbitrator is ideal for this because unbonused HAM/Heavy Missiles work better than unbonused lasers on it. The HAMs compliment close-ranged energy neuting based fits, while Heavy Missiles have the range to compliment TD fits.

In my opinion, this distribution of weapon systems makes the most sense.

2) I'm skeptical about a drone-based destroyer because destroyer hulls are fragile and fights with them are short. Yet drones rarely make for fast fights, this conflicts with the philosophy of destroyer hulls. I would honestly rather see a rocket destroyer, or one with bonuses to energy neutralizers. Perhaps a drone-based destroyer with a bonus to drone speed would work though...

3) I was disappointed to not see any discussion about the controversial -10% laser cap usage bonus. The tendency to replace this bonus on more and more ships with a 5% damage bonus is essentially an admission that it's not working as intended and should be looked at as a whole.

Yeah, I'm not too happy about that but we'll see what can be said in the near future.

what's really strange is that for incarna we have "NDA sorry", while for POS we have "warning ! this is only ideas from what may or may not happen. i repeat : this may NOT happen at all. to be sure you understand : these are just ideas, not facts."

hey CCP, if you want i'll clic on a TOS like UI to be able to read the incarna thing :P

what's more strange is that for the UI pannel, where I'm pretty sure most of the stuff is also on early stages, there's nothing saying it is that. so for 3 differents pannels we have totally differents things regarding NDA and early concepts :/

well anyway, i'm at 83/165, and if i was really disapointed seing only 2 pages for winter 2012 after 30 for csm whitepaper (that have not much importance for us who'll never be candidates), i'm really pleased with what i read on the UI, while i wasn't hoping for anything here.

also, it seems xhagen is pretty obsessed by his mates scared by losing their jobs to csm mistakes, while two step was in full bittervet mode xD

ps : on the "Present:" line you only tell the special guests, nowhere is listed the main cast :/

pps : time for a break, i'm not a native english speaker and this was a bit too much for me. i'll read the other half later.

CCP Ytterbium: ”Something I really don't like in Factional Warfare, is just the capital hot drop. To me it has nothing to do with what Factional Warfare is supposed to do.”
Elise: “Well I don't know, triages are pretty cool small gang PvP thing.”

I lol'ed. Hope you guys don't believe small-gang PvP can utilize carrier, otherwise it would be really ridiculous. At the very least it takes like 10 damage-dealers alone to counter a single triage carrier and defining a gang of 15 as small will show just how blobtarded eve has become.

You are definitely missing a true small-scale view on PvP, something between 1-5 man, where logistics are not used but constant communication is compulsory.

Btw, no one said anything on cyno mechanics? How does that make any sense

Also, no discussion about how +30% falloff tracking enhancers have shifted the game more towards kiting, not-having-to commit-to-a-fight and bluntly put, winmatar?

There are plenty of people out there that consider 10-15 people small gang PVP. Just because it doesn't fit into your master plan for how EVE PVP should work doesn't mean it is wrong. Perhaps you might spend a little more time outside of your bunker and see how the rest of us inferior people play the game.

Would have liked some more information on what all these CCP employees are actually working on...

POS revamp in early 2013, ring mining being pushed back to winter 2013, destructible outposts completely off the map, no timeline for a sov rework, nothing on bringing PI closer in line with its original design goals, nothing about the corp management UI, ...

the only positive surprise was that there seems to be some progress on an improved S&I UI.

I still have the feeling that the "iterations" concept is bad for the game - features are released in a bare-bones state that does not meet the expectations set when they were drafted, followed up by a series of small iterations that mostly fix bugs and improve usability, until focus turns elsewhere while essential parts of the original vision (that was underlying the design of the feature) never get realized.

At the same time I find it impossible to believe the "no more Jesus features" commitment when I read discussion such as the one on the revamped POSes - I can tell you today that 2/3 of the "awesome" ideas discussed in that session will never make it into actual planning while the remaining third will be postponed for future iterations and then forgotten because some more pressing issue comes along.

DUST seems to go the way of WiS - its core feature, the interaction between EVE and DUST players, that has been emphasized over and over again over the past year simply won't be available at launch.

Want me to dig up all the interviews in which CCP employees promised "EVE and DUST players will be in the same chat channels, corporations and alliances", "EVE and DUST will share the same economy", "0.0 alliances will very much want to hire DUST mercenaries for their wars", ... all these key selling points seem to be hazy at best and got postponed into the indefinite future.

I see a lot of :18months: and I don't really see where all these resources go to.

At some point CCP has to deliver the features they love to talk about at FanFest and player meetings so much, and all your current organization allows you to deliver are hollow structures of what could have been (and were hyped as) awesome features (see mercenary marketplace for the most recent example, compare the original vision with the actual product, tell me this is satisfying state of affairs).

Things can change alot in 2 months when the patch goes out on the 8th we will start to hear more about the winter stuff