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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#81 - 2012-07-30 18:19:14 UTC
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
Atheists: Convincing themselves they're the tolerant and open minded ones since forever.


Here's something to think about. The countries with the highest numbers of atheists also have the lowest rates of crime.



And?


We're better people than you. If your God really existed, he would love us more & you would go to hell.

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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#82 - 2012-07-30 18:19:31 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
Atheists: Convincing themselves they're the tolerant and open minded ones since forever.


Here's something to think about. The countries with the highest numbers of atheists also have the lowest rates of crime.

And 100% of people who ate pickles prior to 1800 are dead.

I love pickles...
Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#83 - 2012-07-30 19:23:34 UTC
oh hia der guyz is dis Christian Mingle *dot* com???

Ooops, wrong forum...

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Ryoken McKeon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#84 - 2012-07-30 21:17:33 UTC
Plaude Pollard wrote:
Just wardec and kill the owner of the cans, and then destroy the cans. Simple solution.


OP, I have excellent news! This fine gentlemen has just pointed out CCP's recommended method for dealing with people you don't like.
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#85 - 2012-07-30 21:46:34 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Thor Kerrigan wrote:

I always found agnostics to be "the easy way out", not being able to stand by what they, or lack thereof, believe.

Why must a person believe something? Most people are socialized into a prepackaged religion with no factual bases.

Not buying what they are selling without a product demonstration is not the easy way out... It is being a smart shopper.
Thor Kerrigan wrote:

Back when people used to think the Earth was flat their beliefs were not less wrong than today's based upon their observations. I think most atheists simply go along this method of thought; don't believe until proven otherwise.

Underlined the part where you called atheists agnostics.

Atheism is the absolute 100% belief that there is no God, non-negotiable he does not exist. Agnostic means one has no faith and would not rather just pretend to know the answer like everyone else claims too. Accepts that there might be a god in a world of infinite possibilities.


The only difference between me and you is that given the information presented so far, I find it more logical to think there is no god. This is because I prefer arguments along the lines of "prove something is" as opposed to "prove something isn't".

Call it however you like, neither of us can be 100% sure of anything and I am well aware of that. Siding towards one side does not automatically make one an extremist.

I have never met an agnostic who deep down does not side towards on one side or the other, a true neutral if you will. I can't judge the validity of your opinions, obviously, but that usually depends on your answers to questions such as "the human purpose" and "morality".
Jim Era
#86 - 2012-07-30 21:51:36 UTC
So, then, am I allowed to recruit members to my church of Lord Satan?
Normally games do not allow real life religions but seeing as how EVE seems to differ.......
There seems to be an entire pool of souls to choose.

Wat™
Caroline Cosmos
Perkone
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-07-30 23:07:37 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Boudicca Arbosa wrote:
Atheists: Convincing themselves they're the tolerant and open minded ones since forever.


Here's something to think about. The countries with the highest numbers of atheists also have the lowest rates of crime.



And?


We're better people than you. If your God really existed, he would love us more & you would go to hell.


"We're better people than you".... Thank you for reinforcing my earlier points.
Ian The Bane
13th Bomber Squadron
#88 - 2012-07-30 23:08:57 UTC
Who cares....
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#89 - 2012-07-30 23:11:29 UTC
Ian The Bane wrote:
Who cares....

Well someone obviously did.


Now for the important question: who makes the better god, Sovereign or Harbinger?
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#90 - 2012-07-31 00:45:52 UTC
You guys are gonna get the thread closed by discussing RL religion instead of the cans. Extra LOL points if you get forum-banned while you are at it. It really doesn't matter if you argue in support or against a RL religion because in here, nobody cares about your personal beliefs.

What we do care about is metagaming. can preachers creating trial accounts for the sole purpose of preaching is indeed metagaming. Having an external website to get organized and go preach in other MMOs is metagaming. Recruiting in other MMOs to come and preach here is metagaming.

We also care about the LOL factor. Imagining possible encounters and how they would look. For example, what if a goon and a can preacher where to meet, and wanted to verify their affiliations:

Goon: "Are there stairs in your house?"
Can Preacher: "I am protected.."
Goon: "Great! so how about..."
*Goon gets interrupted*
Can Preacher: "I am protected because the Lord is with me....bla bla bla"
Goon: "Darn.. a can preacher who reads the urban dictionary"

Another thing we care about is game mechanics. How can we blow up some cans if the cans are anchored in high sec by an NPC noob corp pilot. How much damage can the can tank? How many cans can you blow up before concord shows up? What's the cheapest ship/fit that could get the job done? Can an Ibis take care of the cans? What if I'm in the same noob corp?

I tell you... this thread has so much potential, both for game mechanics discussion and for epic LOLs. Don't ruin it.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#91 - 2012-07-31 01:01:20 UTC
Kador is Amarr territory. Working as intended.

Shameless Avenger wrote:
Research

This made my week. Thank you.

Shameless Avenger wrote:
You guys are gonna get the thread closed by discussing RL religion instead of the cans. Extra LOL points if you get forum-banned while you are at it. It really doesn't matter if you argue in support or against a RL religion because in here, nobody cares about your personal beliefs.

+1
I love (civil) religious discussions, but keep it out of this potentially amazing thread so it can live the life it deserves.

Occasionally plays sober
Caroline Cosmos
Perkone
Caldari State
#92 - 2012-07-31 01:18:47 UTC
Shameless Avenger wrote:
You guys are gonna get the thread closed by discussing RL religion instead of the cans. Extra LOL points if you get forum-banned while you are at it. It really doesn't matter if you argue in support or against a RL religion because in here, nobody cares about your personal beliefs.

What we do care about is metagaming. can preachers creating trial accounts for the sole purpose of preaching is indeed metagaming. Having an external website to get organized and go preach in other MMOs is metagaming. Recruiting in other MMOs to come and preach here is metagaming.

We also care about the LOL factor. Imagining possible encounters and how they would look. For example, what if a goon and a can preacher where to meet, and wanted to verify their affiliations:

Goon: "Are there stairs in your house?"
Can Preacher: "I am protected.."
Goon: "Great! so how about..."
*Goon gets interrupted*
Can Preacher: "I am protected because the Lord is with me....bla bla bla"
Goon: "Darn.. a can preacher who reads the urban dictionary"

Another thing we care about is game mechanics. How can we blow up some cans if the cans are anchored in high sec by an NPC noob corp pilot. How much damage can the can tank? How many cans can you blow up before concord shows up? What's the cheapest ship/fit that could get the job done? Can an Ibis take care of the cans? What if I'm in the same noob corp?

I tell you... this thread has so much potential, both for game mechanics discussion and for epic LOLs. Don't ruin it.



You are right. My apologies for helping to derail the original idea behind the thread.
Zed Jackelope
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2012-07-31 01:35:46 UTC
Major Bibi wrote:
Thronde wrote:
I remember the days of HighSec can anchoring, and there were actually ads placed along the trade routes. It added tot he feel of EVE really. little billboards through out space. I kind of miss that.

It was taken out back when Warp to Zero was added to cut back on the server lag.


aye before my time , but not RL religion messages
what if our american friends start to drop can with RL election messages the following months pr anyother RL political messages
it is a pandora s box



As a member of the Holy Republican Party of Amarr, I am appalled at your desire to oppress both my freedom to speak for my political views, and my most holy religious views as well.


Remember people. The most divine Empress herself fully supports the HRPA, remember that when you vote this coming election.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#94 - 2012-07-31 01:37:41 UTC
Zed Jackelope wrote:
Major Bibi wrote:
Thronde wrote:
I remember the days of HighSec can anchoring, and there were actually ads placed along the trade routes. It added tot he feel of EVE really. little billboards through out space. I kind of miss that.

It was taken out back when Warp to Zero was added to cut back on the server lag.


aye before my time , but not RL religion messages
what if our american friends start to drop can with RL election messages the following months pr anyother RL political messages
it is a pandora s box



As a member of the Holy Republican Party of Amarr, I am appalled at your desire to oppress both my freedom to speak for my political views, and my most holy religious views as well.


Remember people. The most divine Empress herself fully supports the HRPA, remember that when you vote this coming election.

I don't know, the Empress seems very liberal to me.P
Zed Jackelope
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2012-07-31 01:42:59 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Zed Jackelope wrote:
Major Bibi wrote:
Thronde wrote:
I remember the days of HighSec can anchoring, and there were actually ads placed along the trade routes. It added tot he feel of EVE really. little billboards through out space. I kind of miss that.

It was taken out back when Warp to Zero was added to cut back on the server lag.


aye before my time , but not RL religion messages
what if our american friends start to drop can with RL election messages the following months pr anyother RL political messages
it is a pandora s box



As a member of the Holy Republican Party of Amarr, I am appalled at your desire to oppress both my freedom to speak for my political views, and my most holy religious views as well.


Remember people. The most divine Empress herself fully supports the HRPA, remember that when you vote this coming election.

I don't know, the Empress seems very liberal to me.P



man boosters will really melt your brain. see that kids?
Alara IonStorm
#96 - 2012-07-31 01:55:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Thor Kerrigan wrote:

The only difference between me and you is that given the information presented so far, I find it more logical to think there is no god. This is because I prefer arguments along the lines of "prove something is" as opposed to "prove something isn't".

Why is it more logical to think there is no governing force then admitting you do not know if there is?

Thor Kerrigan wrote:

Call it however you like, neither of us can be 100% sure of anything and I am well aware of that. Siding towards one side does not automatically make one an extremist.

I don't think most Atheists or Religious people are extremist. Both are unfounded absolutist beliefs and that is fine. That is what faith is and faith in the existence of God governs religious as does faith in the belief that there is no god.

No god is a hypothesis as is the existence of a god. There is no starting point to the data so none of the theories hold anymore weight then the others. We know nothing at all. People seem to be fine with guessing and calling it fact. If you do not call your guesses absolute fact then you are agnostic plain and simple.
Thor Kerrigan wrote:

I have never met an agnostic who deep down does not side towards on one side or the other, a true neutral if you will. I can't judge the validity of your opinions, obviously, but that usually depends on your answers to questions such as "the human purpose" and "morality".

You mean the answer to the meaning of life. Humans are clever animals and animals all the same. I was raised on Christian morals and while many of their so called sins I find dated, ostracizing and immoral the basic idea's of not aggressively attacking others or greedily screwing your fellow human beings and being charitable when possible are morals I live by because it creates an ordered society. Sociologically society that is structured to work together grows and prospers.

Make life here good for me, good for those I meet and what happens next, happens next.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#97 - 2012-07-31 02:11:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Shameless Avenger
In the name of Research and LOLz,I am no longer on NPC noob corp:

Can Preachers of Kador

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#98 - 2012-07-31 02:41:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Shameless Avenger
Shameless Avenger wrote:
In the name of Research and LOLz,I am no longer on NPC noob corp:

Can Preachers of Kador


OK... moar research!

I haz created alt in the same corp as can preacher (Pator Tech School) and I've traveled to the can's location. This is what happened:

- Approaching Jesus
- Shooting Jesus
- Divine Retribution
- Heretic Wreck
- Back in bussiness

Awaiting aggro timer to go at it again...

Update: 15 minutes later...

First attack ate through the can's shields before concord showed up. Second attack didn't do anything really. Cans are overpowered! Twisted

Awaiting suggestions on what to try next.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Shameless CanPreacher
Can Preachers of Kador
#99 - 2012-07-31 02:55:19 UTC
Confirming I am Shamless's alt.

Can are overpowered... sec standing @ -2 and can still there. We need either more alts or stronger alts.

Since being in the same corp didn't saved me from the sec standing hit... I'm appliying to Can Preachers of Kador corp. Oh wait:

"You cannot join this corporation as you are Minmatar and this corporation only accepts the following races: Gallente. If the CEO had the skill Ethnic Relations, this would not be a problem."

Shameless, Come on! For the love of the cans, train that skill!
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#100 - 2012-07-31 02:59:44 UTC
Extremely valuable gas clouds have been discovered in the Pegasus constellation which have created a gold rush. ORE was quick to claim 'ownership' as the constellation borders its sovereign space, but the Serpentis and the Syndicate, as well as multiple entrepeneurs from the Gallente Federation, have all claimed their own piece of the pie. Inevitably collisions have occurred and the constellation has become a sort of 'warzone' between various groups of greedy claimants.