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fixing nullsec and the endfd of the oonswamr federation
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Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-30 21:31:50 UTC
the problem wit nullsec is that the goonswaer federaqtion has sov in 9 regions. these 9 regions include fountain, deklein, period basis, cloud ring, and perigen falls.

goons only defend he sov with big cta fleets so that the little guy has no chance
lets give him a chance!

insteadf of needing a 1000 man fleet to take sov lets let anyone take sov if they invest the time

cut the hitpoints on sov structures 99% so that small gangs can maraud and do sov warfare.



make goons work for their space!

im a pubby and im proud
Larloch TheAncient
Freindly Mining Corporation
#2 - 2012-07-30 21:36:32 UTC
Just because someone is better/more organized/ and larger than yourself. Does not mean the game is broken.


Larger armies tend to beat smaller armies, with small gangs can be effective in hit/run scenarios when it comes to holding/taking a fort, small gangs have never thrived in neither Real Armies nor eve armies.


I don't see anything that needs fixing.
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-07-30 21:38:32 UTC
Larloch TheAncient wrote:
Just because someone is better/more organized/ and larger than yourself. Does not mean the game is broken.


Larger armies tend to beat smaller armies, with small gangs can be effective in hit/run scenarios when it comes to holding/taking a fort, small gangs have never thrived in neither Real Armies nor eve armies.


I don't see anything that needs fixing.


vietnam

nuff said

im a pubby and im proud
El Cid Campeador
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-07-30 21:39:57 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
the problem wit nullsec is that the goonswaer federaqtion has sov in 9 regions. these 9 regions include fountain, deklein, period basis, cloud ring, and perigen falls.

goons only defend he sov with big cta fleets so that the little guy has no chance
lets give him a chance!

insteadf of needing a 1000 man fleet to take sov lets let anyone take sov if they invest the time

cut the hitpoints on sov structures 99% so that small gangs can maraud and do sov warfare.



make goons work for their space!



Lol that last little bit was funny. If you think that they got their space for free, you are mistaken. They have fought for it, many will say that they did so cheaply, by cheap tactics. (infiltration, blobs, moons etc...) but those same options are available to you. Just have to know how to lead, and make propaganda. Asking to nerf your enemy simply cause he is smarter, is stupidity.

No im no goon, just tired of seeing people complain about them, when they have the ability to do something about it.... But too lazy too
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#5 - 2012-07-30 21:42:53 UTC
How do you create a thread and not spell half the words in the subject line correct?!? FFS.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-07-30 21:44:26 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
How do you create a thread and not spell half the words in the subject line correct?!? FFS.
I noticed that too.

Maybe he's rage typing and his hands are shaking.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-07-30 21:45:32 UTC
i will offer my generic reply

nullsec is for large empires, not for irrelevant 10-man corps

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
T O P S H E L F
#8 - 2012-07-30 21:46:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Hiyora Akachi
Game isn't broken. You suck.


The Goons hold a large sov because they can field armies to defend it and capture things they don't have.

The idea of Sovereignty is that you are an Empire. To capture and hold that space you need MASSIVE fleets that you can field at a moments notice.

10 people does not constitute an empire. 10 people is a small force used to harass the enemy by ganking haulers or miners. Not smash Sov structures.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2012-07-30 21:47:07 UTC
So what you're asking for is that the goons should be able to take 900 regions rather than 9. After all, if you reduce the workload required to take and hold space by 99%, that's what's going to happen…
Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-07-30 21:48:36 UTC
-99/10

Damnit son.
Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-07-30 21:49:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Garreth Vlox
Torvin Yulus wrote:
the problem wit nullsec is that the goonswaer federaqtion has sov in 9 regions. these 9 regions include fountain, deklein, period basis, cloud ring, and perigen falls.

goons only defend he sov with big cta fleets so that the little guy has no chance
lets give him a chance!

insteadf of needing a 1000 man fleet to take sov lets let anyone take sov if they invest the time

cut the hitpoints on sov structures 99% so that small gangs can maraud and do sov warfare.

make goons work for their space!


LOL, so you want to be able to take 6 guys into null and take space from the guy who got there first with more friends? that's cute, how about investing some time and effort like the other guy did instead of demanding a patch to put him at a disadvantage? Its harder work granted, but it makes you look like way less of a whinny little ***** on the forums.

The LULZ Boat.
flakeys
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-07-30 21:49:39 UTC
Cyprus Black wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
How do you create a thread and not spell half the words in the subject line correct?!? FFS.
I noticed that too.

Maybe he's rage typing and his hands are shaking.



For his sake i sure hope so , and i hope like me his first language is not english because .... ouch otherwise .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-07-30 22:18:43 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Cyprus Black wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
How do you create a thread and not spell half the words in the subject line correct?!? FFS.
I noticed that too.

Maybe he's rage typing and his hands are shaking.



For his sake i sure hope so , and i hope like me his first language is not english because .... ouch otherwise .


don make fun ofmy englishg you stupid muppet sometimes when i typer i dont type right i still have valid thoughs!

im a pubby and im proud
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#14 - 2012-07-30 22:21:48 UTC
Larloch TheAncient wrote:
Just because someone is better/more organized/ and larger than yourself. Does not mean the game is broken.


Larger armies tend to beat smaller armies, with small gangs can be effective in hit/run scenarios when it comes to holding/taking a fort, small gangs have never thrived in neither Real Armies nor eve armies.


I don't see anything that needs fixing.


How about making it easier for fledgling alliances to get up to that point and compete with the Goons? You know, easier than impossible.
Sid Hudgens
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-07-30 22:23:33 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Cyprus Black wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
How do you create a thread and not spell half the words in the subject line correct?!? FFS.
I noticed that too.

Maybe he's rage typing and his hands are shaking.



For his sake i sure hope so , and i hope like me his first language is not english because .... ouch otherwise .


don make fun ofmy englishg you stupid muppet sometimes when i typer i dont type right i still have valid thoughs!



If only that were true....

"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#16 - 2012-07-30 22:28:14 UTC
It doesn't really matter how many hit points a structure has when a wild DBRB appears.

All the structures will die.

.
Xinivrae
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-07-30 22:28:25 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:

How about making it easier for fledgling alliances to get up to that point and compete with the Goons? You know, easier than impossible.


What's so hard about making friends?
Ginger Barbarella
#18 - 2012-07-30 22:32:23 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
the problem wit nullsec is that the goonswaer federaqtion has sov in 9 regions. these 9 regions include fountain, deklein, period basis, cloud ring, and perigen falls.

goons only defend he sov with big cta fleets so that the little guy has no chance
lets give him a chance!

insteadf of needing a 1000 man fleet to take sov lets let anyone take sov if they invest the time

cut the hitpoints on sov structures 99% so that small gangs can maraud and do sov warfare.



make goons work for their space!


And?

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#19 - 2012-07-30 23:03:13 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
the problem wit nullsec is that the goonswaer federaqtion has sov in 9 regions. these 9 regions include fountain, deklein, period basis, cloud ring, and perigen falls.

goons only defend he sov with big cta fleets so that the little guy has no chance
lets give him a chance!

insteadf of needing a 1000 man fleet to take sov lets let anyone take sov if they invest the time

cut the hitpoints on sov structures 99% so that small gangs can maraud and do sov warfare.



make goons work for their space!



It was as if an infinite number of monkeys all typed at once, and were suddenly silenced....

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Internet Lawyer Steve
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-07-30 23:25:14 UTC
El Cid Campeador wrote:


Lol that last little bit was funny. If you think that they got their space for free, you are mistaken. They have fought for it,



I quit reading your post right there...

El Cid Campeador wrote:


Lol that last little bit was funny.



Then I read that part again and thought of your post.

Goons were given their space by TFC. Most of the North, that are members of the CFC were also given their space. TEST was even given their space. The old NC, Goons and Pets did that for them. Goons and Pets also gave TEST Delve.


Goons and Pets have one method of taking space. Camp you in a station while they clear out your Sov. That really isnt fighting, it more like station camping.

Internet Lawyer Steve and Associates,

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