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Is it true that it will be impossible to solo a hulk kill in patch?
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Hypercake Mix
#21 - 2012-07-30 15:38:20 UTC
Not true. Less probable. Not impossible.
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#22 - 2012-07-30 15:40:50 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Aquilinus Naari wrote:
Good Grief! You mean griefers will actually have to shoot at ships that shoot back? Shocked

Did mining barges suddenly get weapon mounts?


It's called local smacktalk V.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#23 - 2012-07-30 15:44:19 UTC
Thor Kerrigan wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
Aquilinus Naari wrote:
Good Grief! You mean griefers will actually have to shoot at ships that shoot back? Shocked

Did mining barges suddenly get weapon mounts?

It's called local smacktalk V.

It's actually Idiotic Rambling in Local V.

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Ghost Frog
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-07-30 15:53:27 UTC
looking at your bio, i'd guess you're with The United. No more easy kills for you?
Sarmatiko
#25 - 2012-07-30 16:03:50 UTC
It's just like with previous suicide gank "nerf" ("CCP removes insurance! \o/ Take that, stupid gankers! At last I can haul my PLEX'es in full afk safely").
Miner's tears will be even more delicious after initial calm. Bear
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#26 - 2012-07-30 16:04:42 UTC
Melodee619 wrote:
There is no need for thought anymore, you see dozens of freighters sitting afk in 4-4 every day, without a care in world.

Tell them the autopilot docks them automatically when they set destination to a station.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#27 - 2012-07-30 16:09:41 UTC
Completely not true. If crap fit, it will still die to a full gank dessie in .5 (maybe even .6).


Also remember that Hulks will no longer (if the new changes haven't been changed back yet on Sisi) have T2 resists. So a non-tanked Hulk will die faster than before.
TokiWartooth Joringer
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-07-30 16:18:35 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
It's just like with previous suicide gank "nerf" ("CCP removes insurance! \o/ Take that, stupid gankers! At last I can haul my PLEX'es in full afk safely").
Miner's tears will be even more delicious after initial calm. Bear


This, because well honestly as gankers here know, History shows that a lot of miners will not or refuse to run a tank. Max yield is king. Nothing is really gonna change much because of this patch. Miners are shaking their little baby fists at us now, saying take this you wankers.

But in reality we know most will not tank, wanting max yield, or cant tank, because they never trained the skills. Not that big of a deal either way. They may tank for abit, but most wont last because of the hit to their wallets. So yes rejoice now, but there will be tears later Twisted

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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#29 - 2012-07-30 16:19:04 UTC
Gankers will adapt and learn how to gank the new barges. Maybe one of the smart players will teach OP how.
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#30 - 2012-07-30 16:20:24 UTC
TokiWartooth Joringer wrote:
Sarmatiko wrote:
It's just like with previous suicide gank "nerf" ("CCP removes insurance! \o/ Take that, stupid gankers! At last I can haul my PLEX'es in full afk safely").
Miner's tears will be even more delicious after initial calm. Bear


This, because well honestly as gankers here know, History shows that a lot of miners will not or refuse to run a tank. Max yield is king. Nothing is really gonna change much because of this patch. Miners are shaking their little baby fists at us now, saying take this you wankers.

But in reality we know most will not tank, wanting max yield, or cant tank, because they never trained the skills. Not that big of a deal either way. They may tank for abit, but most wont last because of the hit to their wallets. So yes rejoice now, but there will be tears later Twisted


No, this is far too sensible a post. Please ignore it and continue to weep.
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
#31 - 2012-07-30 16:36:03 UTC
No, hulks will still be the "go to" max yield miners. Whenever you see an Orca in a belt in hi-sec, it will be surrounded by a few Hulks.

The other exhumers are getting buffed, because people don't really use them. It's much needed, as now they are going to be used with more frequency, and can be applied to more situations other than, "Are you mining ice? If not, then fly a Hulk."
kurg
Order of the Divine Shadow
#32 - 2012-07-30 16:45:02 UTC
Because killing/fighting something/someone that doesnt fight back is awwww so l33tz0rz Roll
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#33 - 2012-07-30 16:49:25 UTC
Waaaa I can't gank hulks in high sec anymore. Now I'll have to go to Low and Nullsec profit from PvP like everyone else.
Rengerel en Distel
#34 - 2012-07-30 16:49:32 UTC
Melodee619 wrote:
So I jsut got told today they are removing the ability to solo kill a hulk ?, giving a hulk 80k hp is just moronic if it's true. It really does mirror the over reaction to Goons Jihad many years ago which sparked Concord boosting. Because the botters cried to devs that it wasn't fair they couldn't bot in peace. Jihad was one of the best things to happen to EVE, an as much as I have fought them over years, I have respect for what they do/did for EVE game play.

I dont know if this is true, but apparently on Test it takes 4-5 battleships to kill 1 hulk.
I will be shocked if dev's have done it again an given into the miner bots an really done this. EVE is going down the wow route so fast.

3 years ago, just undocking a freighter you had to actually plan your route, an think ahead. There is no need for thought anymore, you see dozens of freighters sitting afk in 4-4 every day, without a care in world.
I was gonna buy myself a second char again but I think I'll wait now an see whats gonna happen, this may well be last straw for me (I hate to be one of those guys), but still I dont play wow games.


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Togg Bott
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-07-30 16:56:09 UTC
Meh. it will probably take all of 1/2 day to figure out the needed ships/config for ganking the miners. a little less profitable... but will not be impossible.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#36 - 2012-07-30 17:02:15 UTC
Everyone is mentioning how hard it will be to kill a well tanked exhumer. But if the player ignores doing a tank, the Hulk will die easy.

I think even fit for maximum yield, you can get 20k+ EHP in a Hulk, if you actually take the time and effort to do it.

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Space Mutiny
#37 - 2012-07-30 17:29:17 UTC
Melodee619 wrote:
So I jsut got told today they are removing the ability to solo kill a hulk ?


EvE is a solo mmo?
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-07-30 19:35:05 UTC
kurg wrote:
Because killing/fighting something/someone that doesnt fight back is awwww so l33tz0rz Roll


Dude you don't know what you're talking about. Suicide gankers fight the toughest enemies everyday. Everytime I kill one of your lame hulks I get ready for the fight of my life against Concord boats. I haven't won yet, but I feel my luck is changing. I purposely seek out 1 side fights against me, so I don't know what you're talking about fighting something that doesn't fight back. Concord fights back and they got some teeth.
Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-07-30 21:05:53 UTC
Melodee619 wrote:
So I jsut got told today they are removing the ability to solo kill a hulk ?, giving a hulk 80k hp is just moronic if it's true. It really does mirror the over reaction to Goons Jihad many years ago which sparked Concord boosting. Because the botters cried to devs that it wasn't fair they couldn't bot in peace. Jihad was one of the best things to happen to EVE, an as much as I have fought them over years, I have respect for what they do/did for EVE game play.

I dont know if this is true, but apparently on Test it takes 4-5 battleships to kill 1 hulk.
I will be shocked if dev's have done it again an given into the miner bots an really done this. EVE is going down the wow route so fast.

3 years ago, just undocking a freighter you had to actually plan your route, an think ahead. There is no need for thought anymore, you see dozens of freighters sitting afk in 4-4 every day, without a care in world.
I was gonna buy myself a second char again but I think I'll wait now an see whats gonna happen, this may well be last straw for me (I hate to be one of those guys), but still I dont play wow games.


Apparently its impossible to AFK mine in highsec with out hit points equal to that of an orca, who knew not being at your keyboard while being in space inhabited by noobs idiots and assholes was dangerous?

The LULZ Boat.
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#40 - 2012-07-30 21:15:59 UTC
Melodee619 wrote:
Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:
1/10

Good try though.


Sorry mate I dont troll, ever, if I say something its because I mean it.


That does not preclude the distinct possibility that you mean to troll these forums with another rehashed topic.

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