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the new mining barges stats let the gankers cry
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2012-07-27 00:33:33 UTC
Mag's wrote:
I don't see the new changes making much difference at all tbh. Most miners will still fit for max yield. Cool

Then all is fine and everyone can continue doing what they normally do.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#102 - 2012-07-27 01:16:48 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Mag's wrote:
I don't see the new changes making much difference at all tbh. Most miners will still fit for max yield. Cool


i think you under estimate the changes.
Nah it's more about not over estimating the miner playerbase tbh.

If I do decide to start shooting miners, I'll adapt. No biggy.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#103 - 2012-07-27 05:20:01 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
nothing been done to the max yiekd and that is good news
they not gank proof and it will take team effort now to gank the mack or skiff, there wtill will be plenty of people going for untanked hulks tho

besides the ones crying the hardest are the one who are too scared to engage in real pvp , something that can actually shoot back


My experience at school was that the bullies cry the hardest and had the lowest pain threshold.
Leeloo Killik
Fweddit
Free Range Chikuns
#104 - 2012-07-27 21:03:00 UTC
I'm a miner myself and I dislike the EHP change... the art of tanking is gone... :/
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
#105 - 2012-07-27 21:53:53 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:

I never ever see "miners" complain here.

All I see are people like you, complaining "about" miners.

Funny how that works.


This.

I never complained about any of my lost exhumers. I have no emotion invested in it, I say oh well and move on. Most of the situations I've lost them, there was nothing I could have done even if I had a "tank" hulk (lol) anyway. When I fit my hulks for yield, I consider it an assessed risk. I'm sure whenever I got ganked, the pirates assumed I was "stupid" for their own pleasure.

I value both my eyesight and the resistance to strain-related injuries like carpal-tunnel, so I don't "constantly keep at speed and aligned, watching all my sectors with my fourth eye on local". I really don't give that much a fk about it tbh. Again, assessed risk. But if I get ganked, I'm stupid and didn't know what I was doing.. Roll even if I say absolutely nothing.

Apparently I'm "doing it wrong" if I don't fit every slot with tank because someone said so, even though I deliberately chose not to do so as a calculated risk.

Jaison Savrin
Brave Empire Inc.
Brave United
#106 - 2012-07-28 01:33:09 UTC
Zaraz Zaraz wrote:
My experience at school was that the bullies cry the hardest and had the lowest pain threshold.



^ all the whining ganker threads have made me think similar ^
Mag's
Azn Empire
#107 - 2012-07-28 01:37:35 UTC
Jaison Savrin wrote:
Zaraz Zaraz wrote:
My experience at school was that the bullies cry the hardest and had the lowest pain threshold.



^ all the whining ganker threads have made me think similar ^
Yea, those miners whine a lot don't they.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#108 - 2012-07-28 02:05:33 UTC
Korvus Falek wrote:
I think its funny this guy thinks this will stop gankers. IMO, the perma-geddon the Goons are financing at 100misk per 10 kills will go up to 200 or 300misk per 10 killed. They have the money to do it and I see no reason why they wouldnt if they wanted to keep the miner tears flowing.



atm seems to be mostly ganker tears flooding the forums lol.
Ryoken McKeon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#109 - 2012-07-28 05:09:53 UTC
I don't see how this is something to brag about.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#110 - 2012-07-28 05:17:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Syphon Lodian wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:

I never ever see "miners" complain here.

All I see are people like you, complaining "about" miners.

Funny how that works.


This.

I never complained about any of my lost exhumers. I have no emotion invested in it, I say oh well and move on. Most of the situations I've lost them, there was nothing I could have done even if I had a "tank" hulk (lol) anyway. When I fit my hulks for yield, I consider it an assessed risk. I'm sure whenever I got ganked, the pirates assumed I was "stupid" for their own pleasure.

I value both my eyesight and the resistance to strain-related injuries like carpal-tunnel, so I don't "constantly keep at speed and aligned, watching all my sectors with my fourth eye on local". I really don't give that much a fk about it tbh. Again, assessed risk. But if I get ganked, I'm stupid and didn't know what I was doing.. Roll even if I say absolutely nothing.

Apparently I'm "doing it wrong" if I don't fit every slot with tank because someone said so, even though I deliberately chose not to do so as a calculated risk.


Though I'd watch local and intel, there's hardly a reason to tank above the rats in nullsec, so I definitely wouldn't.

I did EFT the max yield hulks to see if/how you could make them tank the grav site rats if you happened to get them on you (and not on the tank)... meh.

(Newbies in retrievers would die, so you always need to tank it for em).

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#111 - 2012-07-28 05:24:04 UTC
whining and mining
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#112 - 2012-07-28 05:27:54 UTC
mining and whining

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Ohh Yeah
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#113 - 2012-07-28 05:28:53 UTC
I want to be whined and dined
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#114 - 2012-07-28 05:56:26 UTC
^ Well go grab some cold potato salad, we got plenty of whine here.

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Doctor Benway Kado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#115 - 2012-07-28 08:58:00 UTC
My experience at school was that bullies usually came from broken households where abuse from parental figures was the norm, and as a result incorporated the lesson that physical violence was an acceptable, even glorified, solution to personal conflicts with those around them. Drug abuse among those parental figures seemed pretty common too.

I don't really know what that has to do with a space video game though!
Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#116 - 2012-07-28 09:03:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Zaraz Zaraz
Doctor Benway Kado wrote:
My experience at school was that bullies usually came from broken households where abuse from parental figures was the norm, and as a result incorporated the lesson that physical violence was an acceptable, even glorified, solution to personal conflicts with those around them. Drug abuse among those parental figures seemed pretty common too.

I don't really know what that has to do with a space video game though!


You don't think that there can be such a thing as 'bullying' in a 'space video game'?

Or that the personality traits that find expression in bullying behavior cannot find expression in a 'space video game'?
Jaison Savrin
Brave Empire Inc.
Brave United
#117 - 2012-07-28 10:46:26 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Jaison Savrin wrote:
Zaraz Zaraz wrote:
My experience at school was that the bullies cry the hardest and had the lowest pain threshold.



^ all the whining ganker threads have made me think similar ^
Yea, those miners whine a lot don't they.



Lol, yeah sure that is what I was referring to. Frankly I am less bothered by people whining over being ganked. I can't really blame them for complaining when they are being hunted by angry 12yr olds with desperetly small e-peens. I can however laugh hysterically at the whining of said 12yr olds when the miners are given proper tools to defend themselves. Power to the rock shooters!
Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#118 - 2012-07-28 11:06:44 UTC
Jaison Savrin wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Jaison Savrin wrote:
Zaraz Zaraz wrote:
My experience at school was that the bullies cry the hardest and had the lowest pain threshold.



^ all the whining ganker threads have made me think similar ^
Yea, those miners whine a lot don't they.



Lol, yeah sure that is what I was referring to. Frankly I am less bothered by people whining over being ganked. I can't really blame them for complaining when they are being hunted by angry 12yr olds with desperetly small e-peens. I can however laugh hysterically at the whining of said 12yr olds when the miners are given proper tools to defend themselves. Power to the rock shooters!


I doubt that most of them are actually 12 years old, or even teenagers. But on the other hand you don't need to be 12 years old to behave like you are 12 years old!

Some people love it when people whine over being ganked; thats why they gank people. But when the shoe is on the other foot, they don't see the funny side!

To some people the other players in this game are no better than NPCs, they are there to provide them with entertainment ('its just a game!'. I think that the MMO goes way beyond 'game', the social component is so important really its more like a social or sports club.
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#119 - 2012-07-28 11:10:17 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Nah. Silly miners will still go for max-yield hulks and will still not tank them. They will then still come to the forums and complain about how they miraculously manage to get killed by Destroyers and demand that something be done about this huge injustice.

Lol



something I actually agree with Tippia on - Greed is good

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Jaison Savrin
Brave Empire Inc.
Brave United
#120 - 2012-07-28 11:23:40 UTC
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I doubt that most of them are actually 12 years old, or even teenagers. But on the other hand you don't need to be 12 years old to behave like you are 12 years old!


That is what I was implying. Bear

Quote:
Some people love it when people whine over being ganked; thats why they gank people. But when the shoe is on the other foot, they don't see the funny side!


Which is sad. I've never understood people who get enjoyment out of ruining other people's day. It seems like a sign of latent sociopathy to me.

Quote:
To some people the other players in this game are no better than NPCs, they are there to provide them with entertainment ('its just a game!'. I think that the MMO goes way beyond 'game', the social component is so important really its more like a social or sports club.


I agree. The "its just a game" argument doesn't fly with me. There is another person on the other side of the keyboard. That person is deserving of respect and to be left alone shooting rocks if that is their wish.