Missions & Complexes

general consensus seems to be that you can expect between 50 and 150mil/hr from all of these. YMMV.

agreed

and why are there so many players who try to determine an isk/hr ratio for the profession?
EVE is not a job, it's a game. Quit trying to slap a "minimum wage" on activities in a video game. ahahahaha! this is so idiotic

Of course there is.

Because most people farm isk to support their other gameplay. So it only makes sense to pick the most isk/hr efficient method so they don't have to do it for as much time.

Now, there are people who log in soley to gain more isk. I personally agree that it is a rather idiotic approach to a game. But to each his own.




If you had a large enough sample size there is. How much isk you made in a month by how much time you spent on exploration that month. Even that might not be a large enough sample, though. I guess if he meant, "If I spend 3 hours this afternoon on exploration, how much money will I make?", then yeah that's a ridiculous question with no answer.

Of course there is a way to determine isk per hour. Don't be silly :)

If there wasn't, CCP could cut exploration rewards in half and you couldn't tell because there was no way to generate isk/hour.

So, yes, there is isk/hour and it is meaningful as well.

It is what the EXPECTED isk/hour is if you kept at it hour after hour. Sure, if you just look at it for 1 hour or 3 hours you will not realize it but that is not what the OP is getting at. What he is wondering is what is the EXPECTED VALUE in isk/hour he can get from exploring.

In other threads, people ask if exploration pays more than lvl 4's and you get morons who answer "random number generator is random"...but this can be answered in finding the expected value of exploration and compare it to the same value from level 4's. Lvl 4 expected value is easy to calculate compared to exploration but exploration can be calculated.

So, while I agree with you that someone who is going to do it for 3 hours and only 3 hours and then quit the activity to never do it again then it is a near meaningless question. However, 99.99% of the people will not do that. They will explore or do missions tomorrow and next week and next month and they wish to know in which activity they can expect more isk.

There has to be probability density function, that gives a nice bell curve, which tell you what you most probable income is going to be.

My basic understanding is you will generally earn more money in low sec and null sec.
Mining: the most profitable ores are in null. You can do OK in high sec, but in my experiences to make any decent isk mining you need to be part of a fleet, preferably with an orca booster. I have never mined null but I presume the same holds true. I have an alt that I mainly haul with, he can fly a hulk, and solo mining scordite he may earn ~30mill ISK per hour. That is no gang bonuses and a tanked hulk.

I have no idea the wage gap between 4's and 5's, from my understanding to do 5's with any semblance of efficiency you either need a group or multi-box. As for high sec 4's I see claims of over 100mill ISK per hour, I personally have never seen that much, I get maybe 50-75 per hour depending on the mission, my attention span and how the market is for LP items. If you want to earn money doing level 4's join faction wars and run their level 4's.

I have never ran incursions, my understanding is they are slightly higher than level 4's. As for anom's it has been much too long since I ran one out in null to remember. Anom's in low and null most definitely beat anything you will find in high though.

Exploration is hit or miss, in low sec I have sites where I earn a quick 50 mill in a mag site, the next I get 5-10. The rewards do scale though, meaning you get higher level DED's in low and higher again in null, and the rewards from ladar and mag sites and anoms goes up as well.

yes, because 26 h of exploration is very large timespan. lol

does it mean that when i find a dread gurista rat in lowsec belt that drops 200mil implant i can say i have 200 mil/h from ratting? not really.

and there is no measurement of how much you can get from exploration, simply because there are other people doing the same thing, and if you are in a timezone when there's alot of people doing the same your isk ratio can't be determined. you can say how much you had from exploration in last month and calculate isk/h from your observations, but if suddenly your alliance will have a new corporation, or one corporation will leave and your alliance holds sov, your isk income from exploration will change.

You can have an idea what kind of loot and ISK you can get in hi-sec from exploration.
The results based on average 3 hours per day "loop scanning" around 10 systems.

Hi-Sec Exploaration Report


At the very present moment there is nothing close to FW in terms of ISK/Hour, ISK/Skills or ISK/Risk.

And it is a lot of fun too

ITT people thinking you can apply isk/hr numbers to rewards that are based around a RNG and a player run market.