EVE General Discussion

Some people think passive align works. I wanted to point out that it doesn't. Thanks for the backup, maybe more people will take note.

You are making an assumption or two here. 1) keeping at 3/4 speed, your target will stay in range for any length of time. Depending on targets, speed etc, it may not be simple to keep aligned in multiple directions while doing this. 2) player is in fleet of some sort. Yes people harp about this being a multi-player game and I am pretty sure most of those other ships I see are being run by other people (which therefore fulfills this being multi-player), this does not mean people are automatically in a fleet or even in a corp where others are online at the same time and able to work with them.

Otherwise, we should likewise assume that all gankers are going to be in fleets and have others working with them. In which case, a mining ship is going to get popped. Unless the gankers are not very competent.

Also competent gankers will bump a ship off course totally wrecking alignments. I've seen that happen. All it takes is the scout to uncloak and hit their microwarp drive while running straight at the mining ship. By the time the player realizes what is happening, they are bumped. See how easy it is to gank? This is why no one really needs to complain here. The good miners will be safe, the ones that want to just sit and afk mine will still get ganked. Everyone wins.

Easy to say but remember there isn't always a choice in where to go. For my part I was only thinking about ice mining for this comment. My bad.

If you are mined aligned, you cannot be bumped if you are paying attention.

A cloaked scout can be coming at you at ~300m/s before MWD. At 2500m, he decloaks and MWDs. First second, he goes 300m while the server notices. 2nd second, he goes ~1500m. 3rd second, he Bumps.
The Miner sees the decloack and hits warp. He warps on the 2nd Second.

Keeping at 3/4 speed gives you absolute immunity. If it's not simple, deal with it, or find a place to mine more conducive to mining aligned or get webs.

A Tanked Hulk cannot be profitably ganked in HS (it can't be ganked solo at all). An Aligned Hulk cannot be ganked at all.

I have seen these feats done by professional quality players at cash sponsored PvP tournaments.
Quite amusing you pretend an entry "class" player of EvE is meant to react within 2 seconds in the middle of any random multiple hours sessions of repetitive activity (read: granted to lose attention).




Just got to go mine your ice in an uncharted, unknown system in The Forge.

Why is it that I get the impression that 90% of the people whining about this are not miners?

You're so deliberately disingenuous you should be in politics.

You use "entry class" to imply anyone sitting in a hulk is a fresh faced newb, and skirt around the fact that (to sit and use the hulk effectively) they've been playing this terrible game for over 6 months.

You then claim you've seen trick ganks done by highly skilled players, and intend to use this as the benchmark for systems balance.

I've seen some bombers take down a bunch of BCs solo. However, most people who attempt to replicate that just wind up with an expensive wreck--it's not indicative of the typical scenario.

By your logic, if I can get a hulk to 70K+ EHP, that should be used as the benchmark for whether the ship should be buffed or nerfed.

ganking is not about profit... go read all the ganker posts where they tell us how the cost of the ship doesn't matter.. and that they gank solely for the fun of it.

You are so wrong!

What CCP is doing is promoting suicide ganking.

Think about it. Pilots will be much more complacent with the new ships and thus won't be paying attention when the bad ass boys come looking for easy tears. The clever gankers are already planning fits for this new goldmine.

Mr Epeen

if a person gets even 1 isk/hour for ganking then it still is profitable,
you should be losing isk to kill someone in high sec, ganking shouldn't be a profession, it is done for fun as many stated before.

Edit : of course untanked lol hulk fits is always free to make a profit off of them, those aren't the ones iam talking about.

Same faces, different thread.