EVE General Discussion

A pr0 tanked hulk RIGHT NOW can reach 30-40k EHP even without dumb faction mods. After the buff, it's easily double that. The other ships are going to be even better. I am fitting a battle skiff as we speak.

It always required efforts, now it's going to cost two billion isk in t3 battlecruisers to gank a tanked mining ship in a 0.9 system. Low ends are going to plummet and you'll be back to mining for 10 million ISK an hour. I'd rather have 30m/h veldspar and risk being ganked than 10m/h while safe forever.

The problem with this is not the mining ships. its mining Ice.

The most cruel punishment on the face of this Earth is actively mining ice. It is the most boring activity known to man. There is no way to do it without being somewhat afk, or you go insane.



CCP fix ice mining... make it less mind numbing.

And this is why I pity human hisec miners. Their entire existence is grinding paltry sums and begging CCP for constant nerfs and buffs, which are never enough.

Because CCP is undermining all of our attemps at making highsec mining profitable for the carebears and the carebears are cheering.

Stockholm syndrome.

Thing is that "bot" argument is a very bad argument, I'd like CCP to actually post how many bots are gone after a couple ganks in witch case I'll applause your gaming, and how many players just left because they're tired of this mindless mongoloid activity harassing their gaming time to the point nothing they do is profitable or enjoyable, like it or not some people might just like to mine and there's nothing wrong with this, what's wrong is people assuming every one mining is a bot and should just be "holly punished for this internet space injury"...

I guess you can live with the fact you need to put some effort to gank mining barges, on the other hand CCP has nothing to win loosing customers because of some mindless gameplay and bad design (mining)
Again, it's not players job to play space Gi's or whatever ridiculous laddie tights avenger, report and let them do their job, because it's their job not yours.
I don't like bots, I hate what that crap stuff does to the game in general but I just can't think about it seriously without having an IRL laugh if I start putting aside several points this game promotes openly: multiboxing, alts, massive destruction (requiring massive base materials)

It's just the easy way out to assume new mining barges = bots just to cry some oceans because :effort: now is needed.

PS: I don't mine any more, there are more/less interesting activities that make me a lot more isk/h for the time I can afford to play.

LOL Yes, the goons care about you, kumbaya!

it's going to be more hilarious watching you cry out loud over veldspar mining being down to 5m isk/hr as opposed to being literally more profitable than crokite, thanks to us paying dudes to gank hulks

i mean this change literally benefits me because i have isk invested in high-ends which will actually be used in manufacturing when lowends drop back down, but i dislike the idea of risk-free hisec mining

Suggesting that the pixels you roll your face on your keyboard to eliminate are more important than the pixels somebody else rolls their face on their keyboard to eliminate.

Protip: They're not.

Well how do you explain the fact that mining veldspar and scordite in highsec is currently comparable to mining high end crokite in nullsec in isk/h. Just pick a nice spot in Solitude and JF your minerals to Jita. It's all going to drop to 10m and hour once ganking is no longer a thing.

The lowends rose because hulkageddon culled the herd at a critical time. The smart miners who evade ganks are getting rich.