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Looking for Advice: 0.0 My Goal

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Richard Crisson
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-24 12:48:59 UTC
Hello all, coming here to the Newbie QA forum for some advice, hopefully a friendly capsuleer can point me in the right direction. I've come to EVE for something fresh, the old loot grind through static encounters in other MMOs was getting really, really stale for me. I'm a fairly well read person when it comes to gaming news, and over the years the political intrigue of the player run space of EVE has always fascinated me, even as a non-player. Now that I've played for a few days and done quite a bit of research, I have consistently had one question for myself: Why did I wait so long to get into this game!?

That said, I'm looking for help into getting INTO that section of space run by the players, also known as Nullsec. My research initially pointed me towards joining the Goonswarm Alliance, simply because they are supposedly Newbie friendly and they are most definitely active in 0.0. Then I figured out that I either had to know a guy who knows a guy or pay them ten dollars to sit on their forums for three months. Sadly, neither of those is going to happen anytime soon as I don't know anyone else that playes EVE IRL and there's no way I'm paying 10 bucks to sit on my hands for a quarter of a year.

So, how does someone make their way into the wild west of space relatively quickly? How can I get into an Alliance with some pull without having to drop cash? I'm an extremely dedicated gamer, that's never been a problem and in nearly every persistent gaming experience I've had I've held some kind of leadership position. (Not that I'm looking for that, I'm just trying to give you all an idea of what type of player I am: Dependable and driven. Yes, my research shows that I need an Alliance and yes this is kind of a pitch of myself.)

Along with the Alliance requirement for meaningful Nullsec action, what else will I need to be focusing on? Skills-wise and such? I'm assuming I need to be trained in at least 2-3 classes of ships, although I hear running a quick frigate meant to hold targets in place is useful to group combat. Anything else recommended?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can respond.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#2 - 2012-07-24 13:05:54 UTC
Easiest way is probably to head to providence as they (read CVA) have a mile long red list and NBSI in place.

Providence resident won't shoot neutrals but the pirates do but you'll learn quickly on who's 'red' and who isn't.
You might have to do some sucking to get access to citadel (blue for provi bloc) but after that you or your little corp should be able to visit the most permanently busy null sec space in new eden.

CVA It's their rules that the rest agreed on in providence, so you have to deal with CVA in any case.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#3 - 2012-07-24 13:11:10 UTC
I'm sure you don't have to pay or have RL friends to get into null corps. I would say that if you have to pay it is a scam, nothing else. Use recruitment section of these forums or in-game tool to search for a corp that you thing you would fit to and apply. Quite a lot of corps have hisec/lowsec/null bases and allow members to move between them.

And don't tolerate a*sholes screaming at you, it is a game, not a fu*king job for fu*k sake.

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Richard Crisson
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-07-24 13:19:29 UTC
Baneken wrote:
Easiest way is probably to head to providence as they (read CVA) have a mile long red list and NBSI in place.

Providence resident won't shoot neutrals but the pirates do but you'll learn quickly on who's 'red' and who isn't.
You might have to do some sucking to get access to citadel (blue for provi bloc) but after that you or your little corp should be able to visit the most permanently busy null sec space in new eden.

CVA It's their rules that the rest agreed on in providence, so you have to deal with CVA in any case.


What I'm seeing here is that this is a Roleplay Alliance revolving around the Amarr empire, correct? Not sure if it's what I'm looking for, as I 1) Am not quite read up on the lore and 2) I am not an Amarr pilot.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#5 - 2012-07-24 13:20:54 UTC
Richard Crisson wrote:


What I'm seeing here is that this is a Roleplay Alliance revolving around the Amarr empire, correct? Not sure if it's what I'm looking for, as I 1) Am not quite read up on the lore and 2) I am not an Amarr pilot.


You don't need to roleplay to live in provi, you just have to tolerate it when dealing with CVA. P
Richard Crisson
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-07-24 13:24:48 UTC
Baneken wrote:
Richard Crisson wrote:


What I'm seeing here is that this is a Roleplay Alliance revolving around the Amarr empire, correct? Not sure if it's what I'm looking for, as I 1) Am not quite read up on the lore and 2) I am not an Amarr pilot.


You don't need to roleplay to live in provi, you just have to tolerate it when dealing with CVA. P


So I would just need to negotiate docking permission and could then use that as a foothold as I learn Nullsec and look for an Alliance somewhere else in the region?
Lilliana Stelles
#7 - 2012-07-24 15:44:57 UTC
If you just want docking permission, look into NPC nullsec. Stain, Outer Ring, and Syndicate are good for this. The stations are public. Talk to some of the local corps and see what you can work out... they may just try and kill you, but you might make some friends.

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Richard Crisson
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-07-24 16:04:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Crisson
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
If you just want docking permission, look into NPC nullsec. Stain, Outer Ring, and Syndicate are good for this. The stations are public. Talk to some of the local corps and see what you can work out... they may just try and kill you, but you might make some friends.


This could work too. I guess all I'm wanting is to find a way to get a foothold in a Corp. that's in an Alliance that actually has some territory to it. The concept of Alliance warfare and expansion is just fascinating to me, it's like watching the colonization of new continents from a few hundred years ago happen in front of us. Only Washington is crossing the Delaware on a Cruiser.

Edit in advance: That was just the first anachronism that popped into my head, I know the revolution wasn't an expansion thing lol
Lilliana Stelles
#9 - 2012-07-24 16:21:41 UTC
Also, keep in mind that Goonswarm isn't the only alliance of its type. Test also allows new members (usually people from Reddit), but they have alternate recruitment methods, such as their arts and crafts admission, allowing you to join by making a vido or song about them.

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Phelan Kheldian
EVE University
Ivy League
#10 - 2012-07-24 16:39:48 UTC
I'm REALLY new to Eve Online as well (less than a month played) and I came in with similar feelings as I had been researching Eve for years. Actually had a recruiter tell me he didn't believe that I was a new player because of my depth of knowledge of Eve lingo and such; which is kinda frightening since I find myself wondering what something means on a daily basis still. But back to the reason for my post:

First of all, before moving out into null-space, I'd suggest figuring out what you want to do in Eve. Your 'vision' for your character as I call it. Make sure its something you'll enjoy; but, also look for ways to branch out a bit to make yourself more valuable to your corp. Maybe your interest is in a very niche idea in Eve, that's not bad; but, you do need to have things do to when you aren't able to do that niche. The reason for this is that you want to make sure you are doing what is fun for you.

Now, once you've got that figured out, start looking around for corps. Use the forums here and the in-game recruitment channel. I spent a good 2 weeks talking to different corps before I settled into the one I'm in (which does happen to be a Provi corp). Look for a null-sec corp that is interested in similar things to you and when you talk to them make sure they are interested in what you want as your vision. I dropped several corps from my list of possibilities because they told me I didn't want to do what I had for a vision. Some recruiters DID offer my suggestions on how to do what I wanted or on how to expand my skills so I could be helpful when not doing my vision; which was very good. I actually had a recruiter from another corp/alliance refer me to Yulai Federation.

Take your time and make sure the corp offers what you want and need. Its okay to not jump into the first corp that shows interest... this isn't WoW and people who do a lot of jumping from corp to corp to corp tend to be frowned on. Make sure you pick a corp that is newb friendly (god has Yulai put up with some stupid questions from me) and willing to teach you. A corp that just wants their name on your employment record isn't a place you need to be. Also, be wary of the ones with monthly corp dues. Those are great for older players who can easily farm up ISK, but for newer and/or casual players those dues can be a headache as you are already struggling for ISK.

Now, I'll throw in my opinion on Providence since I'm a new resident there. Its a place you can relatively safely do whatever you want. There is an intel channel for you to ask if your next system jump is safe. The various alliances in the area regularly are running fleets to watch for pirates. And they seem to be pretty friendly to new players. I can't speak on recruitment because I'm new myself, but there are some pretty nice corps around Providence... and they cover all aspects of play: PvP (yes, the NRDS corps do actually PvP a lot), trading, industry, exploration, etc.
Richard Crisson
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-07-24 16:51:04 UTC
Phelan Kheldian wrote:
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Now this, this was incredibly helpful! If you don't mind my asking, is there any way you'd be okay with me sending you an in-game mail to ask questions about getting my bearings and such? I also MIGHT be interested in the Providence area so you might be able to help me there as well.
Phelan Kheldian
EVE University
Ivy League
#12 - 2012-07-24 17:03:46 UTC
Richard Crisson wrote:
Phelan Kheldian wrote:
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Now this, this was incredibly helpful! If you don't mind my asking, is there any way you'd be okay with me sending you an in-game mail to ask questions about getting my bearings and such? I also MIGHT be interested in the Providence area so you might be able to help me there as well.


Not sure how much help I will be; but, you can hit me up in-game with mail or even a private conversation (assuming I am not needing to concentrate on other matters).
Richard Crisson
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-07-24 17:08:17 UTC
Phelan Kheldian wrote:
Richard Crisson wrote:
Phelan Kheldian wrote:
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Now this, this was incredibly helpful! If you don't mind my asking, is there any way you'd be okay with me sending you an in-game mail to ask questions about getting my bearings and such? I also MIGHT be interested in the Providence area so you might be able to help me there as well.


Not sure how much help I will be; but, you can hit me up in-game with mail or even a private conversation (assuming I am not needing to concentrate on other matters).


Awesome. I might even hit you up for info on Yulai, Providence seems like a nice sector to start off in mostly due to the NRDS policy, but it seems that CVA, from my research thus far, is both A) Very RP oriented and B) relegated to Amarr characters and their ideals.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#14 - 2012-07-24 19:26:47 UTC
Yes, CVA are an amarr loyalist group but you don't usually have to worry about in your daily life.

My former alliance was Apolacypse now, heck most of my EVE career before ewoks and polaris has been tied in with provi and it residents, Hence I recommended and still recommend providence for people who don't have the needed connections or experience to try it in NPC null sec or in NBSI space.

Also part of providence NBSI has always been docking rights for neutrals.
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-07-24 19:32:14 UTC
Richard Crisson wrote:

Awesome. I might even hit you up for info on Yulai, Providence seems like a nice sector to start off in mostly due to the NRDS policy, but it seems that CVA, from my research thus far, is both A) Very RP oriented and B) relegated to Amarr characters and their ideals.


CVA isnt all that roleplayish anymore, theres only a few places where you will notice it (like they say "Amarr victor" in local after a fight etc)
Other than that, it wont affect your time there at all.