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Interstellar travel, Capital RR, and Triage discussions

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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#181 - 2012-07-23 23:01:41 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
He can sit in a capital though.

Doesn't that make him a capital pilot?

You know, throughout this thread he has already claimed he doesn't use his carrier for ratting or personal logistics. And he certainly doesn't use it for PvP.

It just makes you wonder, wtf does he use it for? Does he actually own one, or did we just take his word for it? I honestly can't remember at this point.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Andy Landen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#182 - 2012-07-24 01:29:09 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Emperor Salazar wrote:
He can sit in a capital though.

Doesn't that make him a capital pilot?

You know, throughout this thread he has already claimed he doesn't use his carrier for ratting or personal logistics. And he certainly doesn't use it for PvP.

It just makes you wonder, wtf does he use it for? Does he actually own one, or did we just take his word for it? I honestly can't remember at this point.


I used to use it for ratting and personal logistics. Still do use it for logistics sometimes. There are other things a carrier is good for. It reps poses pretty well. Does other things to besides pvp, but I don't use my own carrier for pvp. There are other carriers in the universe besides my own. Enough about me.

More about the issues beyond the like/don't like .. how about real thoughts. Hasn't anyone here ever wanted to fly a spaceship like any number of spaceships of the various franchises: Enterprise, Prometheus, Destiny, or Odyssey to name a few? All of these ships had their own hyperdrives (or FTL) for interstellar travel. Eve can handle this beautiful technology just fine.

"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein 

Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#183 - 2012-07-24 01:59:17 UTC
Literally missing the point.
Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
T O P S H E L F
#184 - 2012-07-24 02:03:42 UTC
Andy, bro, just because its used in some other Sci-fi universe, doesn't mean the current balance of EvE will allow it to work without being grossly overpowered or so hilariously bad no one uses it.


Also, stop talking about caps. You're just causing more people to ridicule you.
Andy Landen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#185 - 2012-07-24 04:13:44 UTC
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
Andy, bro, just because its used in some other Sci-fi universe, doesn't mean the current balance of EvE will allow it to work without being grossly overpowered or so hilariously bad no one uses it.


Also, stop talking about caps. You're just causing more people to ridicule you.


Your point is good, but plenty of concepts from other universes can and have already come over: Stargate, Jump drive, Shields, drones, wormholes, etc. Hey, if it is grossly over or under powered, then I am sure that a nice balance can be found with good discussion.

Also, I don't mind the ridicule. It mostly comes from same group of four people who have very little useful to contribute to these subjects. Everything that I have said about caps in this thread has been quite accurate.

"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein 

Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#186 - 2012-07-24 04:58:12 UTC
Andy Landen wrote:
Everything that I have said about caps in this thread has been quite accurate.

Shhhh...... I think I hear the fact police coming.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#187 - 2012-07-24 05:25:05 UTC
Andy Landen wrote:
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
Andy, bro, just because its used in some other Sci-fi universe, doesn't mean the current balance of EvE will allow it to work without being grossly overpowered or so hilariously bad no one uses it.


Also, stop talking about caps. You're just causing more people to ridicule you.

Everything that I have said about caps in this thread has been quite accurate.


No.

It hasn't.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#188 - 2012-07-24 11:21:27 UTC
Andy Landen wrote:
Everything that I have said about caps in this thread has been quite accurate.


Absolutely buddy.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#189 - 2012-07-24 11:33:01 UTC
I think our work here is done.
Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
T O P S H E L F
#190 - 2012-07-24 11:35:08 UTC
Hehe, I love how he goes back and edits his posts when he says something wrong.
Andy Landen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#191 - 2012-07-24 18:08:53 UTC
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
Hehe, I love how he goes back and edits his posts when he says something wrong.

I am rarely wrong, but you can always see me quoted in other posts.

Let's add one more bonus to Triage/Siege: T2 module multiplies shield, armor, and hull base hp by 4. T1 multiplies by 2. I love it. Train Tactical logistics to 5!

"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein 

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#192 - 2012-07-24 18:09:50 UTC
Andy Landen wrote:
I am rarely wrong

Ahahahahahahaha

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#193 - 2012-07-24 18:24:16 UTC
Andy Landen wrote:
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
Hehe, I love how he goes back and edits his posts when he says something wrong.

I am rarely wrong, but you can always see me quoted in other posts.

Let's add one more bonus to Triage/Siege: T2 module multiplies shield, armor, and hull base hp by 4. T1 multiplies by 2. I love it. Train Tactical logistics to 5!

http://i.imgur.com/vOHEI.gif

Your triage idea doesn't fix any of the "problems" you have with them. It simply breaks triage for small gang (mostly wormhole gang) use.
mine mi
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#194 - 2012-07-24 20:19:14 UTC
Long ago I though a complicate system to travel without jump drive, now I like to introduce a new one, artificial w/h
The idea is the ships can create a w/h to the destiny, with only one exit; the distance between the two entries is 1/1000 of the real distance in au, the mass they can pass is 175% of the ship who create the w/h and the only ship who can see the exit
Pross: can not cyno jam
Conss: take time to travel

I like to see less poker and more chess in the fleet battles.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#195 - 2012-07-25 02:02:44 UTC
mine mi wrote:
Long ago I though a complicate system to travel without jump drive, now I like to introduce a new one, artificial w/h
The idea is the ships can create a w/h to the destiny, with only one exit; the distance between the two entries is 1/1000 of the real distance in au, the mass they can pass is 175% of the ship who create the w/h and the only ship who can see the exit
Pross: can not cyno jam
Conss: take time to travel

I like to see less poker and more chess in the fleet battles.


Nope.
mine mi
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#196 - 2012-07-25 17:20:16 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
mine mi wrote:
Long ago I though a complicate system to travel without jump drive, now I like to introduce a new one, artificial w/h
The idea is the ships can create a w/h to the destiny, with only one exit; the distance between the two entries is 1/1000 of the real distance in au, the mass they can pass is 175% of the ship who create the w/h and the only ship who can see the exit
Pross: can not cyno jam
Conss: take time to travel

I like to see less poker and more chess in the fleet battles.


Nope.


I have to surrender to so eloquently
Andy Landen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#197 - 2012-07-25 22:07:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Andy Landen
It is always funny to hear people worry about carrier use in small gang battles. Carriers in small gangs. That is almost as bad as Titans in small gangs. Anyone have a problem with that? I don't .. just asking .. Both are intended to be used with large support fleets and suffer when they are not used in that way.

"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein 

Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#198 - 2012-07-26 04:12:39 UTC
Andy Landen wrote:
It is always funny to hear people worry about carrier use in small gang battles. Carriers in small gangs. That is almost as bad as Titans in small gangs. Anyone have a problem with that? I don't .. just asking .. Both are intended to be used with large support fleets and suffer when they are not used in that way.

Try using a large gang in a wormhole and tell me how that mass restriction treats you. (also you ideas get even worse when you implement them for large gangs)
Serithin
Rage Against Machine
#199 - 2012-07-26 04:45:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Serithin
"A capital ship moves from point A to point B. Along the path, the capital ship will always have a "nearest" system which may show on the top left."

OMFG this right here made me almost fall out of my chair no it doesn't because you insta warp with a jump drive i cant even read the rest of this because of this comment right here if your will to even say that sentence you have never flown a capital EVER or jumped it and as it is they create personal WHs and instantly travel to where ever the jump portal is locked onto.

so in theory that 1/2 a second of "jump time" is your faster than light speed traveling anyways.

regardless im not sure where they can go with jump drives but id like to see CCP take a few prototype ideas to maybe do something different with it.

Also yes carriers are great for small gang WH fights never tried to take one out since i only use a corp one a while back prolly fit one through a C5 though only one if that

oh and BTW there is a reason that triage disables all that because if a carrier could fight back or get reps in triage a set of 4 triage carriers would take out entire fleets by themselves easily your talking making the triage carrier not a LOGI ship but a veritable juggernaut nuff said let this now die.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#200 - 2012-07-26 11:26:07 UTC
Andy Landen wrote:
It is always funny to hear people worry about carrier use in small gang battles. Carriers in small gangs. That is almost as bad as Titans in small gangs. Anyone have a problem with that? I don't .. just asking .. Both are intended to be used with large support fleets and suffer when they are not used in that way.


Who was worrying about carriers being used in small gangs? Triage carriers supporting subcaps is awesome and one of the more fun uses of triage.

You'd of course know this, if you actually used a carrier.