Ships & Modules

I was watching the AT and was fascinated by the abilities of the Vargurs (yeah, they didn't win).

Anyway, I have not looked up the fits used (should be available soon on the kb's), but did my own fiddling.
I am pretty sure the guys flying these ships have something even better.

Following is a 1% over on CPU and 1% over on grid, but pretty sure that can be fiddled with.

DPS = 1000 plus
Tank (alone) = 1836 (no heat)
Add Crystal set = 2791
Add Top End Vulture = 5013
Add Overheat = 7300.

Sure, that is a very short term tank until the ASB runs out of boosters, but for a minute...wow.

[Vargur, ASB's]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Ancillary Current Router I
Large Ancillary Current Router I


Hammerhead II x5

Did the legwork for you.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17021527

Also, ASB's are fine. Get some cheese to go with your whine and adapt.

Thanks for the link.
And for the record, not whining, just running numbers.

EveTv "experts" are all null-bears whose primary function in life is to ensure the status quo is not disturbed .. pay them no mind

Want to know why/how the ASB is broken?
Does not matter what size charge one has loaded, the boost amount is the same. Imagine if your car (presuming you have one, which I don't ) performed the same no matter which hydrocarbon you poured into it .. be it vegetable oil or refined jet fuel .. now take that broken P.O.S. to a race track and try to get it enrolled.

Wasn't thought through. Scary bit is that it was brought up during testing and ignored .. has skewed the balance in Eve even further making Mime so stupidly superior that we will see little else than rust (more than now, less than 100%) in space until it is sorted.

I would hardly expect CCP devs to comment off-handedly on a balancing change during a live event.

They aren't gonna discuss "the new ASB are so OP, and broken, and thats why everybody's using them" during ATX when they are streaming it on Own3d trying to get some PR to non EVE players.

That sounds like a great idea! but yea CCP decided to have a brain and keep their mouths shut for the event.

Not directly. They did, however, limit each ship to using only one ASB. The dual ASB fitted ships are extremely tough to take down.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=16938205#comments


Duel ASB. Massive tank. This pilot had Links, Crystals, Drugs. And he knows how to fly that ship well.

The trouble he had was the Falcon. And that is the downfall of all the Marauders.

edit here: Link goes to the comments and not the actual KM. But you can navigate from there.

Yeah.

I really miss that now with the proliferation of ASBs. Like EVE wasn't overtanked enough

I only see people whining about ASBs as now they have to put actual effort and thought into taking ships down that previously melted within seconds.

The only thing we don't want with ASBs is more powerful meta versions. Maybe make the current version the T2/Meta 4 item. I do LOTS of pvp in every ship type and we do not get people running around in omgwtfpwn ASB ships.

Dual ASB ships generally have very lttle buffer.

Even when fitting oversized ones thay are not overly powerful. Frigs that fit them are genrally alpha'd if fitting dual mediums, and a single medium is overcome fairly quickly.

Cruisers can generally only fit large ones and again,k the lack of buffer makes them die pretty quickly. If you want a tanky cruiser, people will always fly in a maller over an ASB ship.

The strongest one is probably the dual XL-ASB Cyclone, but it's only real use is as bait as you gimp all DPS and have no room utility mods, it's no more overpowered than say the prophecy which can fit a huge buffer tank at expense of DPS. All you have to do is not shoot the bait until last, which really isn't hard.

Battleships have a pretty good tank with them, but again, no buffer so as soon as the cap boosters run out, you are screwed. They may last slightly longer than an armour buffer BS, but not by a great amount.

TLDR; The only problem with them is people not used to seeing gimped ships actually having a use now.