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Many dead in shooting at Batman premier in Denver...

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Bommel McMurdoc
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2012-07-23 01:02:43 UTC
What happened in Aurora, Colorado was a horrible moment for the people involved. My heart goes out to the families who have lost their loved ones to an unstable individual.

It still surprises me to this day how easy it is for some people to just snap. I mean this guy was studying to complete a PhD to become a neurologist and goes into a crowded theatre with combat gear and high powered weapons. I have a feeling that this guy saw the movie "rampage" and wanted to emulate it. (mind you not confirmed just my own personal thought.)

I became very saddened when I discovered that a 4 month old baby and a 6 year old child were added to the list of victims, the 6 year old child was killed and the 4 month old child was simply treated for exposure to the gas Holmes tossed into the crowd. It saddens me also, that the families took children so young to a midnight premier of a movie. Most baffling is the 4 month old being there. =( I suppose babysitters are difficult to procure. While I understand shooting spree's are few and far in between, finding a babysitter may certainly, have saved the life of the 6 year old child.
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2012-07-23 02:08:00 UTC
Thank God his gun jammed. It's a shame no one else in that theater was armed to stop that sicko.

Taking away guns: its pointless because murderers will still find a way to murder... don't forget he had rigged an apartment with IEDs, and a person who gives up his liberties for security deserves neither. If you give your weapons to someone else, you are at their mercy. Doesn't always work out well. In fact did you even see the movie?

I'll leave out the spoilers and say this: the American Revolution started because the bad guys, Britian at the time, wanted to take away our guns so they could control us better. That's what people who want power do, and they do exist: they make sure to protect it. One of those ways is make sure your tanks can run over any and all civil rights protesters (a la Teinamen square or when Iran killed protesters who found out the government rigged the elections) at will without fear.

xavier69
Stark Enterprises LLC
#103 - 2012-07-23 02:19:18 UTC

I find this entire thread offensive and utter joke the fact ccp has left up here with out locking it a testament to hate of USA or incompetence


HONOR THE DEAD!!
Bommel McMurdoc
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2012-07-23 02:25:56 UTC
xavier69 wrote:

I find this entire thread offensive and utter joke the fact ccp has left up here with out locking it a testament to hate of USA or incompetence


HONOR THE DEAD!!



"out of pod experience" means anything outside of EvE.

Funny, a few people in this thread are talking about the first amendment and this guy here, probably an american, is offended by what's being written. Or, perhaps i'm being too literal. /shrugs
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#105 - 2012-07-23 02:33:45 UTC
Oh oh, someone somewhere who did something was into something that a lot of people here are into...


Quick! To the PassMoreLawsMobile!!!1!!!!

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
#106 - 2012-07-23 03:20:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Wrayeth
Just a quick note, as I don't intend to get any more involved in the argument than this:

When people died in the shooting in Norway, the response was "Oh my God, how horrible! Our hearts go out to the people of Norway!" Yet, when something similar happened in the United States, the forums exploded with 'That's what you get for being dirty, evil warmongers and allowing your people to own firearms!"

I don't know about you, but to me that seems more than a tiny bit prejudiced and cold-hearted.
Theron Urian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#107 - 2012-07-23 03:32:41 UTC
xavier69 wrote:

I find this entire thread offensive and utter joke the fact ccp has left up here with out locking it a testament to hate of USA or incompetence


HONOR THE DEAD!!


I have yet to see any one make a joke or light of the situation. The situation did happen tho, and it has now sparked a debate about the second amendment and other things ( violent media ).

When 9/11 went down was the hole of America not in outrage and debating on a course of events that should take place and voicing there own opinion?

No one is disrespecting any one that died, calm down there is no need to start angrily finger pointing.
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
#108 - 2012-07-23 03:36:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
not that serious to need assault rifles and such stuff in my house yet

edit: you edited first I see, anyway guess you've got the message Theron

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#109 - 2012-07-23 03:51:43 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Oh oh, someone somewhere who did something was into something that a lot of people here are into...


Quick! To the PassMoreLawsMobile!!!1!!!!



I love these stories... it shows double standards to their highest degree. Had the guy been a football player he would be a "great athlete" and a "promising young man". But his hobby was games and now he is "addicted to games" and "out of touch with reality".

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

Theron Urian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#110 - 2012-07-23 03:53:05 UTC
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote:
not that serious to need assault rifles and such stuff in my house yet

edit: you edited first I see, anyway guess you've got the message Theron


I didn't edit crap, my post was removed. I guess it was "Offensive"

Thumbs up for looking like a fool tho.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#111 - 2012-07-23 03:55:36 UTC
Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust wrote:
not that serious to need assault rifles and such stuff in my house yet


The guy didn't had an Assault Rifle. He had a semi-automatic AR-15 rifle. Different things. Don't believe me, watch this nice policeman explain it: Linky.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#112 - 2012-07-23 04:23:35 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:




A sports car is built for what?

Speed, right?

And on the same roads as everybody else too.


Back in the 1990s, I heard a very common refrain from all those suburban soccer moms regarding their SUV: "If there is an accident, I want the people in the other vehicle to die". Mike Judge made fun of this mentality in a "King of the Hill" episode.

Might I need to cite motor vehicle deaths ?


Keep this in mind though, real freedom is not needing acceptance or permission from the likes of you. So nothing you say is going to change my mind. I have guns because I can.



I have no issue with you owning a gun for protection or hunting or sport. I simply dont get why you need military grade weaponry.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#113 - 2012-07-23 04:25:53 UTC
Wrayeth wrote:
Just a quick note, as I don't intend to get any more involved in the argument than this:

When people died in the shooting in Norway, the response was "Oh my God, how horrible! Our hearts go out to the people of Norway!" Yet, when something similar happened in the United States, the forums exploded with 'That's what you get for being dirty, evil warmongers and allowing your people to own firearms!"

I don't know about you, but to me that seems more than a tiny bit prejudiced and cold-hearted.


It happens so often in the USA that its lost all shock value.
Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#114 - 2012-07-23 04:35:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia
baltec1 wrote:

I have no issue with you owning a gun for protection or hunting or sport. I simply dont get why you need military grade weaponry.


At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter.

Crazy people that set their minds on sick selfish acts like this will go to great lengths to make them happen. What is considered actually military hardware is incredibly difficult for a civilian to get his hands on legally, what most consider "military hardware" isn't and this isn't forgetting no law keeps determined people from getting their hands on illegal stuff anyways.

It's a tired out argument, but the truth of it can't be diminished. If this kid could not get his hands on a gun, he could have used a vehicle, or made a bomb... the sick mind of a killer can come up with many ways to inflict their pain and no matter what you think you can do to stop them will be completely impotent in the face of a resourceful person dead set on committing an act of terror.

When terrible things like this happen we all grasp for answers, but there aren't any. We want to lash out and make it not possible, but there is nothing defined we can do to stop random acts of violence. Nothing.

Sometimes you get lucky, a cop runs into the guy on his way to a crime, a friend knows something is up and speaks up to authorities before it's too late... sometimes you don't get so lucky.

baltec1 wrote:

It happens so often in the USA that its lost all shock value.


That's both messed up to say and patently false.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#115 - 2012-07-23 04:37:43 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

I have no issue with you owning a gun for protection or hunting or sport. I simply dont get why you need military grade weaponry.


Define "military grade weaponry".

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2012-07-23 04:54:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Shameless Avenger wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

I have no issue with you owning a gun for protection or hunting or sport. I simply dont get why you need military grade weaponry.


Define "military grade weaponry".



Yes, surely my duck hunting napalm isn't military grade Straight

Also, if you want to legally own a "military grade weapon" in the US... say an M16 or an AK with a selector lever. The end cost with the fees is going to be around $350,000

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#117 - 2012-07-23 05:14:13 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Shameless Avenger wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

I have no issue with you owning a gun for protection or hunting or sport. I simply dont get why you need military grade weaponry.


Define "military grade weaponry".



Yes, surely my duck hunting napalm isn't military grade Straight

Also, if you want to legally own a "military grade weapon" in the US... say an M16 or an AK with a selector lever. The end cost with the fees is going to be around $350,000


Well said Bunny... now forum trolls and wannabe weapon experts will go on google retreat trying to formulate a comeback. We'll know they have google'd when they start talking about "Mil Specs" & "Match Grade" components. It's gonna take them a while.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#118 - 2012-07-23 05:23:02 UTC
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


[quote=baltec1]
It happens so often in the USA that its lost all shock value.


That's both messed up to say and patently false.


There isnt a year that goes by without a mass shooting in the states.
Domer Pyle
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2012-07-23 05:23:50 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:




A sports car is built for what?

Speed, right?

And on the same roads as everybody else too.


Back in the 1990s, I heard a very common refrain from all those suburban soccer moms regarding their SUV: "If there is an accident, I want the people in the other vehicle to die". Mike Judge made fun of this mentality in a "King of the Hill" episode.

Might I need to cite motor vehicle deaths ?


Keep this in mind though, real freedom is not needing acceptance or permission from the likes of you. So nothing you say is going to change my mind. I have guns because I can.



I have no issue with you owning a gun for protection or hunting or sport. I simply dont get why you need military grade weaponry.


it's simple. hunting rifles and shotguns are for hunting, pistols and shotguns are for defense against individuals, and "military-grade weaponry" is for defense against the government. hell, if the founding fathers had it their way, there would be local militias all over the place. guns don't kill people. they're just tools.

"Imagine if the bars to your prison were all you had ever known. Then one day, someone appears and unlocks the door. If they have the power to do this, then are they really the liberator? You never remembered who it was that closed you in." - Ior Labron

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#120 - 2012-07-23 05:25:59 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Shameless Avenger wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

I have no issue with you owning a gun for protection or hunting or sport. I simply dont get why you need military grade weaponry.


Define "military grade weaponry".



Just about everything these guys touch.

Domer Pyle wrote:
guns don't kill people.


They just make it easyer.