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So Angel Cartel ships are gonna get V3'd.

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Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-07-20 18:08:17 UTC
Whoever approved of the Amaar V3 should be fired IMO. How you could destroy the greatness of the Amaar gold so easily baffles me
CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#22 - 2012-07-20 18:28:53 UTC
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
Whoever approved of the Amaar V3 should be fired IMO. How you could destroy the greatness of the Amaar gold so easily baffles me



I miss my shiny Paladin with the chrome-red plating. Cry
Mac Tir
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-07-20 21:23:57 UTC
Ayuren Aakiwa wrote:
Why more space camo? WHY What?


Well the simple answer is, why not?

Put yourself in the position of an Angel captain. You're likely to be mercillessly destroyed within hours of spawning by some nullsec ratter, who's flying a machine that is usually optimised to annihilate you in seconds. It's no wonder they get out the spraypaint in the quiet time before their first (and last) patrol into your alliance's backyard.
Taoist Dragon
School of Applied Knowledge
#24 - 2012-07-20 22:01:18 UTC
The different 'blobs' of cammo can be made with various materials designed to 'baffle' radar and such other devices in a space environment so 'space cammo' may not be as silly as it first appears....




so there....





And I like it BTW for all the new V3's....and the new Amarr is awesome :)

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
#25 - 2012-07-20 22:07:56 UTC
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
Whoever approved of the Amaar V3 should be fired IMO. How you could destroy the greatness of the Amaar gold so easily baffles me



I miss my shiny Paladin with the chrome-red plating. Cry

I miss my fcking antennas on my fcking curse.

"Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise." 

Vermifuge
Shot-To-Hel
#26 - 2012-07-20 22:48:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Vermifuge
Tor Gungnir wrote:
And guess what - MORE F***ING SPACE CAMO!

Seriously CCP, you need to fire whichever person in the art department has such a raging hardon for camo.

He would be better of working on World of Tanks or something.

EDIT: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/newssystem/media/63064/1/AngelCartelV3.jpg


Down with space camo!

Adding my 2c. I would rather wait another year for V3 until CCP could come up with something a little more original. This camo theme on all the ships feels like a cheat. Why go through the effort of designing a new paint scheme when CCP can just throw up a few blobs in photoshop and call it a day? LAZY!

I would rather see a cleaned up version of the Dramiel and / or Cynabal applied to all the Angel ships. Maybe add some of that pearlescent effect .
Deise Koraka
Caldari Investigations and Forensics
#27 - 2012-07-21 00:58:42 UTC
Pre Inferno 1.2 the AC frigates (Daredevil, Dramiel) and the cruiser (Cynabal) looked really nice, some of the last "evil" looking ships in the game...and almost everyone I talked to about it was looking forward to a nicely textured all black Machariel.

Instead we get MORE space camo!

Stop it.

Just stop it with the camo!


Stoooooooooop! Evil

I am a carebear, and I support High Sec ganking and PvP. Just please, don't blow up my Hulk*. **<3 **

*Mackinaw as of Inferno 1.2

Hatsumi Kobayashi
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-07-21 01:09:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Hatsumi Kobayashi
Not sure why you're upset about the space camo, when the biggest issue here is actually the Machariel having its model size reduced.

No sig.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2012-07-21 01:44:03 UTC
Effect One wrote:
They look awesome!

More importantly however; I can identify quite easily a Mach, Cynabal and Dramiel from left to right respectively. What, however, are the two ships that appear centre image top and bottom? New Cartel ships?
Looks like Ruffians, Predators, and Thugs.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#30 - 2012-07-21 04:04:27 UTC
Well i was afraid they will switch from stupid to more stupid and put race stripes on em,in a 5-10 years maybe some new guy walk in 'art' department and undo this 'quick hide behind that orbiting bush over there era'.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#31 - 2012-07-21 04:10:19 UTC
I personally like the camo choice for the Angel ships. It looks nice (unlike the Gall navy).

And camo makes just as much sense as any other paint job. Its a choice made by the group.
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-07-21 04:20:47 UTC
love all the camo in the game apart from caldari, it totally irks me and i want to kill them all!!!
Shedling
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-07-22 04:00:17 UTC
I find the camo really vulgar to look at.

The dram and daredevil look so sweet right now, not looking forward to this change. When they V3'd Amarr it irritated me too - the black t2 ships looked badass back then.
KhaelaMensha Khaine
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-07-22 04:51:51 UTC  |  Edited by: KhaelaMensha Khaine
There is no stealth in space.

Camo is just lazy artistry. EACH model should have it's unique colour scheme. A lot of effort went into designing the hull itself so why not put the same amount into the colours too? Many of these hulls have been around for years - plenty of time to come up with a decent paintjob for each one.

Ships should look as varied as super hero/villian costumes - i.e. some would be bright, garish and in your face while others were subdued and subtle - seeking to blend in and avoid drawing attention.

Total player side customisation is probably impossible because of server load issues but a selection of several skins (2-4) might be feasible as a start.

Alternatively, allow local re-skinning (on the client only) so that you see the colours that you want while everyone else sees their own. This has been possible in FPS games for years. It would also be the boldest statement of the fact that a ship's colour doesn't matter one bit in space anyway.
Tankn00blicus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-07-22 06:05:58 UTC
Bro, it needs the space camo to blend in with the space forests.
Saile Litestrider
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-07-22 11:58:19 UTC
To be fair, the machariel already had space camo. That doesn't make it any less hideous or give reason to blight the other angel ships with it, of course. I actually think the Angel Cartel has a much more cohesive color scheme as it is, instead of all camo all the time. The little dark colored ships blend in with the spots on the giant machariel, it's kind of a nice effect. The universal camo is just... boring.

I'd really like to see a dev blog, or at least a forum post, from someone at the art department who's responsible for all this camo in space. I'd like to hear their reasoning, get a confirmation as to whether we're getting custom skins or are just going to have to live with it, and see a picture to make sure they aren't some psycho who wears a full camo jumpsuit everywhere they go.

At this point I honestly wouldn't be surprised to wake up and see the Sansha ships suddenly had all their spikes removed and replaced with arctic camouflage. Ugh
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#37 - 2012-07-22 12:33:35 UTC
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
Not sure why you're upset about the space camo, when the biggest issue here is actually the Machariel having its model size reduced.


OMG a fast agile bs with a small sig is no longer the size of a carrier!!! You're right that clearly is the biggest issue Roll

Honestly 1400m is still too big for a ship like the mach, and yes I support dropping the ships assembled size to that of the other bs.
TomyLobo
U2EZ
#38 - 2012-07-22 20:05:21 UTC
The mach hasn't changed one bit so what's the problem?
Adacia Calla
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-07-22 22:08:11 UTC
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:
Not sure why you're upset about the space camo, when the biggest issue here is actually the Machariel having its model size reduced.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

D:

I've had my carrier-sized Mach for 5 years :(

Test signature....forum not applying settings :(

Freundliches Feuer
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-07-22 22:10:40 UTC
Camo is fine L2P.
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