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So what tools are there for station traders nowadays?
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Silvermane Holdings LTD
#1 - 2012-07-20 21:30:42 UTC
Title pretty much says it all; I decided to get back into making money on the market instead of by shooting red crosses and I could use any advice regarding doing so that you wonderful folks would care to provide. I figure out-and-out advice is probably not happening, but maybe I could get some tips on good apps to use to keep track of my profit.

Interested Party (TM)
Stigman Zuwadza
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-07-21 03:10:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Stigman Zuwadza
Tools ...hammer and nails maybe. Big smile

I just started using Eve Mentat, quite handy for regional price comparing (if you have cache handy / import files) or theres EveMarketeer.com (its nicely presented so it gets my vote) if you don't have cache and what not handy.

Fly Safe. o7

It's broken and it's been broken for a long time and it'll be broken for some time to come.
clamslayer
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-07-21 06:30:20 UTC
if you are using trade tools, you are not doing this right.
Chevalleis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-07-21 07:54:01 UTC
clamslayer wrote:
if you are using trade tools, you are not doing this right.


And your reasoning is...?
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#5 - 2012-07-21 08:28:44 UTC
clamslayer wrote:
if you are using trade tools, you are not doing this right.

I think that very much depends on your approach to trading.

I use google docs and EVEMon constantly. I use the Zofu and Chruker sites a little bit. Beyond that I've always been happy just using the facilities provided by the EVE client (or strictly speaking, multiple EVE clients) and the forums.

If CCP made it easier to manage multiple accounts/characters through the EVE client or EVE gate then I'd be able to do away with EVEMon, but I can't imagine trying to handle large numbers of accounts effectively otherwise (I tend to have between 10 and 15 active accounts at any one time).

I do not think I could ever be without google docs. Even if CCP were to implement a spreadsheet in the client I would be unlikely to use it because (1) CCP has yet to implement a workable text editor so what are the chances of them creating a workable spreadsheet, (2) google docs is accessible even when EVE is not and (3) google docs will run on a wide variety of platforms so I can pretty much access them anywhere and at any time.

I'm sure people with different styles of trading have justifications (both sensible and otherwise) for the tools they use. I have however encountered a lot of people who use tools without really understanding what the tool does, which seems foolish to me. I have also noticed than many people depend upon popular tools that provide inaccurate, incomplete or out of date information... which has lead me to frequently "use" these tools indirectly to anticipate the activities of other players and profit from them.
Arcosian
Arcosian Heavy Industries Corp Holding
#6 - 2012-07-21 17:14:52 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
I tend to have between 10 and 15 active accounts at any one time.


Shocked
clamslayer
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-07-21 17:32:43 UTC
Chevalleis wrote:
clamslayer wrote:
if you are using trade tools, you are not doing this right.


And your reasoning is...?


On average I earn 500 million isk an hour. I'm very happy with that number, and feel it's above average. If I spent time finger f#cking trade tools, my isk earned to hour spent working would decrease.
Caelis Boirelle
Aurora Investments
#8 - 2012-07-21 19:42:51 UTC
clamslayer wrote:
On average I earn 500 million isk an hour. I'm very happy with that number, and feel it's above average. If I spent time finger f#cking trade tools, my isk earned to hour spent working would decrease.


As with everything in life, how something is for you is not going to be the same for everyone else. Presenting annecdotal evidence as fact is a waste of time.

Back to the OP, other than EVE Mentat, I quite liked Eve Profit back when it was up but it's been down for a while now because the developer had some RL issues. I think there's an opensource version up on the forum somewhere that you can download if you're savy with mySQL and that sort of stuff.

If not, you really can't beat a good ol' fashioned spreadsheet Big smile

Aurora Investments is looking for an alliance to call home
clamslayer
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-07-21 20:21:04 UTC
Caelis Boirelle wrote:
clamslayer wrote:
On average I earn 500 million isk an hour. I'm very happy with that number, and feel it's above average. If I spent time finger f#cking trade tools, my isk earned to hour spent working would decrease.


As with everything in life, how something is for you is not going to be the same for everyone else. Presenting annecdotal evidence as fact is a waste of time.

Back to the OP, other than EVE Mentat, I quite liked Eve Profit back when it was up but it's been down for a while now because the developer had some RL issues. I think there's an opensource version up on the forum somewhere that you can download if you're savy with mySQL and that sort of stuff.

If not, you really can't beat a good ol' fashioned spreadsheet Big smile




Mkay, let me simplify this, if a player has 60 minutes a day to trade, they are more likely to make more isk if they spend all 60 minutes modifying orders rather than spending 40 minutes modifying orders and 20 minutes entering information into a trade tool.

Dezolf
DAX Action Stance
#10 - 2012-07-21 20:42:20 UTC
Check out VV's revamp of the EvE Income Analyzer, that is, to be honest, the only one I know of, offhand.

I've had some convoluted plans of making something myself, but I just seem to get sidetracked too quickly.
Salarc
SalCorp
#11 - 2012-07-22 02:03:31 UTC
clamslayer wrote:
Caelis Boirelle wrote:
clamslayer wrote:
On average I earn 500 million isk an hour. I'm very happy with that number, and feel it's above average. If I spent time finger f#cking trade tools, my isk earned to hour spent working would decrease.


As with everything in life, how something is for you is not going to be the same for everyone else. Presenting annecdotal evidence as fact is a waste of time.

Back to the OP, other than EVE Mentat, I quite liked Eve Profit back when it was up but it's been down for a while now because the developer had some RL issues. I think there's an opensource version up on the forum somewhere that you can download if you're savy with mySQL and that sort of stuff.

If not, you really can't beat a good ol' fashioned spreadsheet Big smile




Mkay, let me simplify this, if a player has 60 minutes a day to trade, they are more likely to make more isk if they spend all 60 minutes modifying orders rather than spending 40 minutes modifying orders and 20 minutes entering information into a trade tool.



I make billions of isk a day, all made through use of spreadsheets. Without said spreadsheets I would be unable to easily spot when and where to drop all my isk. Effectively saving me hours of searching.

To quote
"As with everything in life, how something is for you is not going to be the same for everyone else. Presenting annecdotal evidence as fact is a waste of time."