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Super Cap Nerf Lore Question

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Brynhilda
Chimp Hoons Export and Expo Service
Scary Wormhole People
#1 - 2011-10-10 19:22:07 UTC
So we know that Super Caps are being nerfed and many tears flood the forums while Super Pilots commit their sadness to the moon. This is all enjoyable but it begs me to ask a question.


What is the lore reason for this? What factors are causing Supers to no longer field non-fighter drones? What is causing them for structural weakening? I can figure that new technology is being implemented into the Dreadnoughts for their increase but what causes the Supers to become weaker?

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2011-10-10 19:23:04 UTC
a wizard did it

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2011-10-10 19:23:38 UTC
now realize this is a game and asking for lore reasons for balance changes is stupid

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Brynhilda
Chimp Hoons Export and Expo Service
Scary Wormhole People
#4 - 2011-10-10 19:25:08 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
now realize this is a game and asking for lore reasons for balance changes is stupid


Well, you're just no fun.

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EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#5 - 2011-10-10 19:28:18 UTC
In order to contain the massive swinging dicks of supercapital pilots, the command area of supercapital class vessels has been moved to where the drone bay is located.
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#6 - 2011-10-10 19:28:26 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
a wizard did it

I'm pretty sure he had to gather all his disciples round to channel mana.

Sadly, I wasn't invited - else supers would have enjoyed a real fix instead of this mild rebalance.

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Rens Cheque
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-10-10 19:29:25 UTC
They were touched by his noodly appendage.
John DaiSho
Quam Singulari Industry
Roid Suckers
#8 - 2011-10-10 19:32:40 UTC
Supercap pilots just forgot how to use them. Their balls got so big that their body cant deliver enough blood to their brain. Their language center got damaged too, resulting in a lot of hilarious whine threads in the forum. ;)
Brynhilda
Chimp Hoons Export and Expo Service
Scary Wormhole People
#9 - 2011-10-10 19:33:25 UTC
Eh, A wizard sounds more reasonable.

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morons.
#10 - 2011-10-10 19:54:12 UTC
Since they can't dock, SC pilots miss out all the CQ fun.

In order to address this injustice, dronebays on Supercaps are turned into CQs. Both, Titans and SCs will receive a right click option called 'watch door' located right between the self destruct and eject options.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-10-10 20:21:08 UTC
The lore reason for any nerf is a retcon. It was always like this.

Unless you think there could possibly be an in-universe reason for everyone arbitrarily deciding to downgrade their armor plating and shield generators by the same 20% amount.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-10-10 20:24:35 UTC
John DaiSho wrote:
Supercap pilots just forgot how to use them. Their balls got so big that their body cant deliver enough blood to their brain. Their language center got damaged too, resulting in a lot of hilarious whine threads in the forum. ;)


A lot are just titan/super alt pilots, they will still be it at the end, they will just have to use a little more brains instead of afk second account mining ice in gallente space Lol
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#13 - 2011-10-10 20:28:03 UTC
Navy Doctrines would probably force admrials to focus using thier fighters more, i mean thats what they are paid to do not sit around while some drone 'steals der jobs'.

Concord Conventions could have illegalized the practice.

BUDGET CUTS are always a big one all answer.

Hacker/Rogue Drone Virus, Gallente have already lost alot of ships of these drones going rouge inside thier own bay which promtly went to munching on the crew and the ships' insides. It just makes sense that they shouldnt expose carriers to such threats.

New Electronic Passive warfares makes it harder for fighters to lock guns onto.

Hull armor and shields hp reduction can be explained by better weapon upgrades ammos and firing controls being distributed and there is no way curerntly to compensate for that on these large ships as they already did that once before which lead to thier massive HP ballon in the first place.

Smaller ships already done figured it out and can compenstate better.

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Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#14 - 2011-10-10 21:04:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Karim alRashid
It was the Jovians. Or Nanites. Or both.

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Zhade Lezte
#15 - 2011-10-10 21:11:48 UTC
Nanomachines.
Oberine Noriepa
#16 - 2011-10-10 21:14:16 UTC
Does there even need to be a lore explanation for this?

Jace Errata
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-10-10 21:24:19 UTC
For the HP downgrade, I would agree with the guy a few posts above: It's not an actual loss, it's a recalibration. Ship guns are more effective against supercaps now, as they are easily upgraded and modified, whereas supercap hulls are so huge (and old, in design) that it's pretty much impossible to upgrade their systems to compensate.

For drone bay reduction (remember: the drone bay is still there, that's what the fighters are in. It's just smaller and can't hold actual (robotic) drones): Maybe there was some vital piece of kit or something, an update to the design, and it couldn't go anywhere but part of the drone bay (which was coincidentally the part with the drone racks).

(Also this should really be in EVE Fiction.)

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#18 - 2011-10-10 21:26:11 UTC
Leave it to a bored person to come up with a dozen more reasons why I can almost explain every nerf in the game via lore.

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Infinimo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-10-10 22:34:26 UTC
who gives a ****

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BeastlyRage
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-10-10 22:57:55 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
In order to contain the massive swinging dicks of supercapital pilots, the command area of supercapital class vessels has been moved to where the drone bay is located.


This!!!
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