Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Its really sad when you are looking around on stations, ...
belts and more where there are so many scripts and bots doing so much without you been on the screen.
Making its so much harder for those that are realy playing the game and active on the screen.

There are so much mining bots, traveling scripts with freighters, marked scrips/bots and other spamming and scaming stuff.

But most of all, the scripts/bots making your afk computer making billions a day just trading stuff in Jita.

Why isnt there a stop to this, or focus to stop those?

Or making a reward system for people able to catch someone running a bot/scripts or anything like that? Or tools that might help in getting them ban and more for life. Its not that hard that i guess to go in the depts of the activity on characters activity and how the activity is that give the idea if its a real person or a computer that is gaming.


There might be some other forum post about this but dident take my time to scan around so sorry for this if there is already a big thread about it. Dident see any around in the first pages.

Yes, but it dosent give you any feedback, reward or anything else then a small display that you have done a report.
I know people have been perma ban to use bots, but realy, the mining bots isnt the big thing, its the spaming in Jita and the robot/scripts that is harvesting buy orders, chaning them every 5-10min and so on and then put them for sale etc.. making as i write, billions every singel day as its just keep going non stop around the clock.


There need to be done soemthing to this before its realy destroying the marked and the options to real people to do marked stuff without sitting 8 hours looking on the buy/sell orders to get anywhere with a few isk.

Anyhow, the idea is a system that let us players get a reward, more feedback or something that.....

Its not all about a reward, but at last feedback if you did the right thing, what happen or nothing happen to the character you report.
Aswell, if someone is using time to map a toon to see if its worth right clicking and report him or if it might be a bot, its ok to get something in return, at last a message saying something when you report.

Doing something wrong??.. No, time is money, isk or whatever, and if you using time to get someone ban... bla bla bla..
This game can be so much better without stupid bots and ****** up people that cant really play the game

Well, things can be done much harder, like banning the IP to that user. Ofc there are alot of ways around that, but not many people have knownlage how to do that. So if 20% know, that ramains getting rid of 80%.
If the gye have 10 accounts, so what, he made himselfe get permaban on all of them as not following rules.

And how can people know what they did wrong in the way of getting ban if people got feedback when reporting someone?.. lol, to that. I'm not talking about telling what he did, or how or what so ever. He that god ban know good himselfe that he got ban, and i'm not talking about realy giving the reporter any other info then good job, we got him or any other words then "you have reported him" or something message when you have klick.

A. Don't post while tired/drunk/on a phone, it rarely ends well (especially with longer posts)

B. IP banning is a horrible kludge of a method. It has a strong chance of accidentally banning innocent people in the same building as the botter and doesn't really solve anything because changing your IP is so insanely easy.

I couldn't even begin to follow your second paragraph.

Reward for reporting a botter?

How bout more rocks for you to mine from?

If you need a reward. You suck.


IP bans can end up banning innocent people (like students at Uni)


Feedback lets them adapt their programs to not be caught.

Actually I know a forum where a certain player, named prencleeve, was attempting to get help circumventing a perma-ban. Some of the players here may have heard of prencleeve, and understand that CCP were probably pretty damn srs bizness about his ban.

Well, despite changing his ip, spoofing his mac address, running eve in a vm and using clean email addresses etc. his new accounts keep getting banned very quickly. So I suspect CCP do have some kind of method of detecting double logins, one beyond the standard ban anyway.

But I'll be damned if I know what that method is, or how often they use it.

I don't understand why people keep calling for IP address bans but never once talk about MAC address banning or combinations of IP and MAC bans where any connection from MAC X at or within 5 miles of IP address Y is declined.

oh and also with the instant bans that the op is looking for the number of legitimate players that would get banned by goon reporting alone would put a serious dent in CCP's cash flows.

Its not the easiest thing in the world to figure out who is and who isnt a bot. people are stupid and bots are getting smarter. not every bot is dumb and not every player is smart. the petitions alone would be interesting to watch. but ultimately do more harm then good for the game.

I am positive that there would be some sort of attempted fc banning if it was known how CCP determined bots. and expecially if there was instant bans handed for # of reports. Null pos bash fleets have what? 100 + ships on grid? thats at least 150 bot reports that could be filed on the opposing FC. add the rest of the alliance and some blues? goon swarm could probably handle 2k reports on someone an hour, if they tried. im pretty sure that would cover whatever metric the op was thinking of for instant bans.

-I only use goons as an example here, as they have the manpower to try something like this. Im sure there are other single alliances that could do it, but none spring to mind.

Again, yeh its many options around here to get those people of this game they dont realy care for as they are doing this and making it harder for everyone that realy playing the game