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Afk mining - What exactly is there to do while mining?
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Pipa Porto
#121 - 2012-07-20 03:20:33 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Aeryn Banks wrote:
May I respectfully suggest you refrain from using your mining ship with very weak EHP and instead utilize a sturdier non-mining ship with substantially strong EHP to mine ore to get your ISK?


Try mining with three Rokhs for 3 hours and then tell us how did it go. And more importantly would you do it again?


You claim to mine in a Damnation. You're clearly happy with that. When did Rokhs enter this line of discussion?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#122 - 2012-07-20 04:37:24 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
You claim to mine in a Damnation. You're clearly happy with that. When did Rokhs enter this line of discussion?


Are you troll or just stupid? Probably best if you continue just mining that Tech.

Pilot with perfect skills and 3% Highwall implant:
Full cycle of 8 MDCMIIs mines 3500 m3 (heavily rounded) of ore
Rokh's cargohold: 625 m3

Mining yield is 5,6 times bigger than Rokh's cargohold.

Because you get bonuses from Orca pilot who doesn't have mindlink one cycle is 141s.

So you're going to move ore from your cargohold to Orca's hangars or can every 25s or so. Actually even more often because you have to do that after every time laser cycles and you have 8 of those. Use three Rokhs and you hav 24 lasers.

I give you 1 million if you can post a video you mining with three Rokhs for 3 hours. And 1 million bonus if you don't have to get professional help after that.
Pipa Porto
#123 - 2012-07-20 04:41:57 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
You claim to mine in a Damnation. You're clearly happy with that. When did Rokhs enter this line of discussion?


Are you troll or just stupid? Probably best if you continue just mining that Tech.

Pilot with perfect skills and 3% Highwall implant:
Full cycle of 8 MDCMIIs mines 3500 m3 (heavily rounded) of ore
Rokh's cargohold: 625 m3

Mining yield is 5,6 times bigger than Rokh's cargohold.

Because you get bonuses from Orca pilot who doesn't have mindlink one cycle is 141s.

So you're going to move ore from your cargohold to Orca's hangars or can every 25s or so. Actually even more often because you have to do that after every time laser cycles and you have 8 of those. Use three Rokhs and you hav 24 lasers.

I give you 1 million if you can post a video you mining with three Rokhs for 3 hours. And 1 million bonus if you don't have to get professional help after that.


You realize that Mining barges didn't exist for the first year+ of EVE, right? It is a Tanky mining ship. If you prefer an untanked mining ship because it's easier, that's your choice.

Again, you've claimed to mine in a Damnation. What does the Rokh have anything to do with this?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#124 - 2012-07-20 04:47:11 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Again, you've claimed to mine in a Damnation. What does the Rokh have anything to do with this?


So, you're a troll.

I don't mine in Damnation. It was just a challenge for gankers like you. But looks like it's way too difficult task for elite pvp'ers.
Pipa Porto
#125 - 2012-07-20 04:49:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Again, you've claimed to mine in a Damnation. What does the Rokh have anything to do with this?


So, you're a troll.

I don't mine in Damnation. It was just a challenge for gankers like you. But looks like it's way too difficult task for elite pvp'ers.


Ah, so you lied again. Why do you keep doing that?

The Rokh is an option. The Hulk is an option. The Covetor is an option. The Rifter is an option.

All of these are options you can choose depending on your personal preferences. All of them have advantages and disadvantages. All of them work.

Miners have a choice between any of these options. If the disadvantages of your choice bite you, you don't get to complain.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#126 - 2012-07-20 04:52:08 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ah, so you lied again. Why do you keep doing that?

The Rokh is an option. The Hulk is an option. The Covetor is an option. The Rifter is an option.

All of these are options you can choose depending on your personal preferences. All of them have advantages and disadvantages. All of them work.


Damnation is still too tough challenge for elite pvp'er?
Pipa Porto
#127 - 2012-07-20 05:01:29 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ah, so you lied again. Why do you keep doing that?

The Rokh is an option. The Hulk is an option. The Covetor is an option. The Rifter is an option.

All of these are options you can choose depending on your personal preferences. All of them have advantages and disadvantages. All of them work.


Damnation is still too tough challenge for elite pvp'er?


The Damnation is also an option. One of its advantages is that it's not worthwhile to gank under most circumstances.

And once again, nobody's calling suicide ganking "elite PvP" except you and other miners. Straw Men don't stand up that well. Luckily, yours are really easy to spot.

Why did you lie about mining in a Damnation?

Jorma Morkkis wrote:
If ganking Hulks gets boring you can always gank my Damnation.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#128 - 2012-07-20 05:07:51 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Damnation is still too tough challenge for elite pvp'er?


The Damnation is also an option. One of its advantages is that it's not worthwhile to gank under most circumstances.

And once again, nobody's calling suicide ganking "elite PvP" except you and other miners. Straw Men don't stand up that well. Luckily, yours are really easy to spot.


So, your answer is yes? Are you afraid of losing internet spaceship pixels or internet spaceship money?
Pipa Porto
#129 - 2012-07-20 05:13:25 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Damnation is still too tough challenge for elite pvp'er?


The Damnation is also an option. One of its advantages is that it's not worthwhile to gank under most circumstances.

And once again, nobody's calling suicide ganking "elite PvP" except you and other miners. Straw Men don't stand up that well. Luckily, yours are really easy to spot.


So, your answer is yes? Are you afraid of losing internet spaceship pixels or internet spaceship money?


When I suicide gank, I do it for a combination of profit and entertainment. As I've yet to find someone mining in a Damnation, the fun involved in searching for one seems minimal, and of course, when there's 50 untanked Hulks between me and finding a mining Damnation, profit's better when ganking hulks.

Now, if you actually mined in a Damnation, and hadn't been lying about doing so, you might have a chance to be ganked like you seem to want.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#130 - 2012-07-20 05:17:08 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
profit's better when ganking hulks.


Especially when you need tech to build them. And where someone gets it? Yeah, your alliance.
Pipa Porto
#131 - 2012-07-20 05:22:19 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
profit's better when ganking hulks.


Especially when you need tech to build them. And where someone gets it? Yeah, your alliance.


Yes, the famed Tech moon fields of SniggWaffe. By the way, read the latest Dev Blog.

Why do you care? You mine in a Damnation (oh, wait, you were lying).

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#132 - 2012-07-20 05:27:12 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Yes, the famed Tech moon fields of SniggWaffe. By the way, read the latest Dev Blog.


I already read it. You guys just conquer all areas with Cobalt moons.
Pipa Porto
#133 - 2012-07-20 05:30:29 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Yes, the famed Tech moon fields of SniggWaffe. By the way, read the latest Dev Blog.


I already read it. You guys just conquer all areas with Cobalt moons.


http://evemaps.dotlan.net/region/moons

Sure. Just like there was an R64 Cartel before Dominion. Roll

Anyway, Why do you care? You mine in a Damnation (oh, wait, you were lying).

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#134 - 2012-07-20 05:46:50 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Anyway, Why do you care? You mine in a Damnation


In case you didn't know: Damnation is T2 ship. That means building one requires moon materials. You guys have all moons...
Zera Kerrigan
The 420th Token
#135 - 2012-07-20 05:47:23 UTC
I am actually myself a pretty active miner. I choosed this career because of all the fame, glory and nerve wrecking action. I rarely get any time at all to do other stuff because my mining requires all my attention.

On the other hand... I love to watch a movie, make something to eat, clean the house, do laundry, fix my PI, get something to ear, play other video games and last but not least get something more to ear.
Pipa Porto
#136 - 2012-07-20 05:51:08 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Anyway, Why do you care? You mine in a Damnation


In case you didn't know: Damnation is T2 ship. That means building one requires moon materials. You guys have all moons...


Again, Waffles has no Moons. I think you're confusing us with someone else.

Anyway, if the OTEC hold on moons bothers you, you're free to take the moons from them.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#137 - 2012-07-20 05:52:54 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Anyway, if the OTEC hold on moons bothers you, you're free to take the moons from them.


Not easy to just take something from 25k players.
Pipa Porto
#138 - 2012-07-20 05:56:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Anyway, if the OTEC hold on moons bothers you, you're free to take the moons from them.


Not easy to just take something from 25k players.


Who ever said it was? Most things in life that are worth doing are hard.

If you don't want to take the moons from them, you can feel free not to. If you do want to, it is certainly possible (after all, the last major Tech holding coalition died, why not this one).

"I don't want them to have the toy, but I'm too lazy to do anything about it" is not a reasonable position.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#139 - 2012-07-20 05:59:56 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Who ever said it was? Most things in life that are worth doing are hard.

If you don't want to take the moons from them, you can feel free not to. If you do want to, it is certainly possible (after all, the last major Tech holding coalition died, why not this one).

"I don't want them to have the toy, but I'm too lazy to do anything about it" is not a reasonable position.


It's not easy to find people to do it when they can just field 2000 supers, 2000 capitals, 10000 subcaps to defend their moons.
Pipa Porto
#140 - 2012-07-20 06:01:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Who ever said it was? Most things in life that are worth doing are hard.

If you don't want to take the moons from them, you can feel free not to. If you do want to, it is certainly possible (after all, the last major Tech holding coalition died, why not this one).

"I don't want them to have the toy, but I'm too lazy to do anything about it" is not a reasonable position.


It's not easy to find people to do it when they can just field 2000 supers, 2000 capitals, 10000 subcaps to defend their moons.


Who ever said it was? Most things in life that are worth doing are hard.

"I don't want them to have the toy, but I'm too lazy to do anything about it" is not a reasonable position.

Oh, and as always, your numbers are laughably wrong.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto