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New dev blog: Tech is fine l2p

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Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#281 - 2012-07-19 18:23:16 UTC
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:



btw funny to see that renter mining and santum running alliance has more kills this month than elite legion :D (think evekill counts npc kills too)

Remember what you always tell Goon, its not quantity that matters, its quality.

You killed a bunch of drakes, we killed lokis tengus and a nyx. Sorry you can't replace them as fast as the drakes get replaced, maybe soon you'll ease up on the straw and get with the program.


yeah thats why this noobs still killed 100b more ;)

and talking of quality while shadoo fcs drakefleets is kinda ironic :D


Shadoo hasn't fc'd a drake fleet in days, you're dying to DBRB and DurrHurrDurr.


Let that sink in for a bit.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#282 - 2012-07-19 18:23:25 UTC
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
yeah thats why this noobs still killed 100b more ;)

Hey guys guys we killed more so we won the isk war

*loses all space*

Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
and talking of quality while shadoo fcs drakefleets is kinda ironic :D

You don't understand the quality of tenacity.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#283 - 2012-07-19 18:23:51 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:



btw funny to see that renter mining and santum running alliance has more kills this month than elite legion :D (think evekill counts npc kills too)

Remember what you always tell Goon, its not quantity that matters, its quality.

You killed a bunch of drakes, we killed lokis tengus and a nyx. Sorry you can't replace them as fast as the drakes get replaced, maybe soon you'll ease up on the straw and get with the program.


yeah thats why this noobs still killed 100b more ;)

and talking of quality while shadoo fcs drakefleets is kinda ironic :D


Shadoo hasn't fc'd a drake fleet in days, you're dying to DBRB and DurrHurrDurr.


Let that sink in for a bit.


for sure...
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#284 - 2012-07-19 18:24:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Rico Minali wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Generating elements from other elements?

Cold fusion, or is spacewizard now a viable profession?


Assumably nanotechnology is beyond you. It is theoretically possible to turn anything into anything else.

nanotechnology involves precision molecular fabrication. Creating elements from other elements is something we've been doing since the 1940s (uranium into neptunium into plutonium, two hydrogen atoms into one helium, etc). Manufacturing elements is just energy intensive to do, yet nowhere near the level of energy consumption that lots of fundamental EVE technology uses constantly (wormholes, cynos, warp drives, lasers).
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#285 - 2012-07-19 18:31:47 UTC
also i think the en guarde dude, due to being extremely bad at eve, isn't factoring in insurance when we lose scads of drakes its not a very big loss
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#286 - 2012-07-19 18:32:46 UTC
b-b-b-but the killboard says...

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#287 - 2012-07-19 18:38:39 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Rico Minali wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Generating elements from other elements?

Cold fusion, or is spacewizard now a viable profession?


Assumably nanotechnology is beyond you. It is theoretically possible to turn anything into anything else.

nanotechnology involves precision molecular fabrication. Creating elements from other elements is something we've been doing since the 1940s (uranium into neptunium into plutonium, two hydrogen atoms into one helium, etc). Manufacturing elements is just energy intensive to do, yet nowhere near the level of energy consumption that lots of fundamental EVE technology uses constantly (wormholes, cynos, warp drives, lasers).



its pretty cool because of our new understanding of the higss boson we might be able to reduce the mass of your ego a bit... which would be awesome considering the state of these forums...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#288 - 2012-07-19 18:40:05 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
also i think the en guarde dude, due to being extremely bad at eve, isn't factoring in insurance when we lose scads of drakes its not a very big loss


you know you guys were to be cool like china in the simpsons...

you guys even decalred how terribad you all were...

now look at you... all leet and sstuff... the stench of bob is eminating from your collective crotches!

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#289 - 2012-07-19 18:41:08 UTC
Are you really so angry you can't even spell properly?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#290 - 2012-07-19 18:41:26 UTC
so it's a price check to make sure tech doesn't go above more than double what is now? I guess that's a fair step, but I'm pretty sure the effects won't be seen on the game at all? like this will change nothing right? it's better to sell what you have, and buy tech off the market.

why would use this new system? whats the goal? I still like the dev blog, but I feel confused as to it's effect.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Rivver
Legions Ltd
#291 - 2012-07-19 18:43:06 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
also i think the en guarde dude, due to being extremely bad at eve, isn't factoring in insurance when we lose scads of drakes its not a very big loss


you know you guys were to be cool like china in the simpsons...

you guys even decalred how terribad you all were...

now look at you... all leet and sstuff... the stench of bob is eminating from your collective crotches!


What does this have to do with CCP fixing Tech?
Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
#292 - 2012-07-19 18:44:19 UTC
good change and loooooooooooooooooooooong overdue
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#293 - 2012-07-19 18:45:04 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Are you really so angry you can't even spell properly?



spelling is overrated... you got the just of it...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#294 - 2012-07-19 18:46:19 UTC
Rivver wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
also i think the en guarde dude, due to being extremely bad at eve, isn't factoring in insurance when we lose scads of drakes its not a very big loss


you know you guys were to be cool like china in the simpsons...

you guys even decalred how terribad you all were...

now look at you... all leet and sstuff... the stench of bob is eminating from your collective crotches!


What does this have to do with CCP fixing Tech?


nothing tbh its just that cfc peeps are harrassing soco peeps due to collective butt smelling...

so i atempted to put things in perspective...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Rivver
Legions Ltd
#295 - 2012-07-19 18:50:19 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Rivver wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
also i think the en guarde dude, due to being extremely bad at eve, isn't factoring in insurance when we lose scads of drakes its not a very big loss


you know you guys were to be cool like china in the simpsons...

you guys even decalred how terribad you all were...

now look at you... all leet and sstuff... the stench of bob is eminating from your collective crotches!


What does this have to do with CCP fixing Tech?


nothing tbh its just that cfc peeps are harrassing soco peeps due to collective butt smelling...

so i atempted to put things in perspective...


I'm not sure how you intend to convince anyone of your perspective when your writing is so horrible. At any rate, this has nothing to do with the changes described in the Devblog.

I'm now of the belief that these changes will change nothing.

Fiat Money
EVE Sky Corp
#296 - 2012-07-19 18:51:19 UTC
So one semi-passive income is just replaced by another one and tech moons will keep in norther hands.

What's the deal?

Again I'm surprised why CCP hasn't chosen the most obvious solution. Wasn't CCP looking for more active income such as mining? Imo planetary ring mining and a new moon resource redistribution would be a much more appropriate solution.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#297 - 2012-07-19 18:51:36 UTC
Two step wrote:
Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:
Maximus Stuu wrote:
/me puts on tinfoil hat

How suprising that the market was brought out of Cobalt 2 months ago....probably the only way this new Dev was allowed to start playing with Tech, giving Goons the heads up before....
Funny how the CSM had their Newcastle, UK reach-around with CCP Unifex and friends ~2 months ago... call it a conspiracy or the delusions of the paranoid, but the CSM and Devs are only human. One thing leads to another, a hand-job is given and sekret game design information is the reward...


Huh? The CSM summit was in Reykjavik, there was a player meet (open to the public) in Newcastle, UK a month or so ago. The CSM hasn't even known about this change for longer than a month, and only got the specific changes in the last few weeks, so perhaps your tinfoil hats need adjusting?

Also, I would also like to point out that just like CCP devs, the CSM is monitored by CCP's Internal Affairs department. I know for a fact that some CSM members had piles of tech that they were unable to sell before this blog went public because of this policy.

If you have a specific complaint, by all means post it here or send it to internalaffairs@ccpgames.com.


For what its worth, as stated we really just got the details recently. I can tell you I've been waiting for it to go public as at the start of the goon wars against us they called in a favor and super-capped our towers to oblivion. I was in the process of sorting out where we should put replacements and have deliberately stopped thinking about it until this was public so I wouldn't gain advantage. Funny thing is even before this was the case I was thinking about a cobalt moon because it is a big part of Gallente T2. Last time I looked though we found a lot of unoccupied cobalt moons but cadmium was elusive. I guess we can expect another rush to ignored moons now!

So anyways, I didn't see any signs of insider information advantage from this and lets face it, having a tech moon is still better than alchemy. Until we get ring mining I think we still have a moon mining problem.

Issler
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#298 - 2012-07-19 18:53:16 UTC
you posted nothing about how you would change moon goo acquisition *sadpanda*
Fraa Bjorn
Cell 317
#299 - 2012-07-19 18:53:27 UTC
Great devblog and nice direction! When is Inferno 1.2 due?

All games have QQ, but only Eve has Q.Q
Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
#300 - 2012-07-19 18:55:40 UTC
Fiat Money wrote:
So one semi-passive income is just replaced by another one and tech moons will keep in norther hands.

What's the deal?

Again I'm surprised why CCP hasn't chosen the most obvious solution. Wasn't CCP looking for more active income such as mining? Imo planetary ring mining and a new moon resource redistribution would be a much more appropriate solution.


*facepalms*

they are. this is just the first step as they do