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Bible bashing

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Dardoign
Mine n Mellow
#1 - 2012-07-17 07:49:14 UTC
I don't know how many of you have noticed containers anchored near gates, particularly in Amarr, advertizing Xianity.
I don't have a problem with freedom of religion but I do have a problem when it is brought into my game and subliminally forced down my throat.
This game needs to be kept secular so that we are able to wind down after our days toil and relax , without fanatics bringing their hang ups into our domain.
I will petition a complaint to CCP before we see a million containers anchored in our free space, advertizing "Daves plumbing supplies" and the like.
The last thing I want is an approach to each system looking like the yellow pages.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#2 - 2012-07-17 07:55:06 UTC
I have no idea what Xianity is. But if it is some kind of real life religious belief, I agree that it should be kept out of game. If I see something of the sorts I will petition it too.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Dardoign
Mine n Mellow
#3 - 2012-07-17 07:57:11 UTC
It's Christianity, but just saying the word sticks in my throat. So I, along with many others abreviate it.
Colonel Xaven
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-17 07:58:32 UTC
Those bible guys clearly haven't seen the EvE intro where evolution clearly is the reason for the existence of all 4 races in EvE Big smile

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#5 - 2012-07-17 07:58:46 UTC
Dardoign wrote:
It's Christianity, but just saying the word sticks in my throat. So I, along with many others abreviate it.


Got it. And agreed, it should be kept out of game.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#6 - 2012-07-17 07:59:04 UTC
Dardoign wrote:
It's Christianity, but just saying the word sticks in my throat. So I, along with many others abreviate it.


0/10

Also, sane atheists do what we want religious people to do - keep their opinions to themselves.
Fiona Tsero
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-07-17 08:01:52 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Dardoign wrote:
It's Christianity, but just saying the word sticks in my throat. So I, along with many others abreviate it.


0/10

Also, sane atheists do what we want religious people to do - keep their opinions to themselves.


Indeed.

People who ask for tolerance seem to forget that it works both ways.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#8 - 2012-07-17 08:04:21 UTC
LOL... trolls are hungry this morning.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Kehro Urgus
Dark Nebula Academy
O X I D E
#9 - 2012-07-17 08:06:05 UTC
Can you provide empirical evidence that proves Jesus Christ is not the son of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

Yeeee! 
Sarah Atkinson
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-07-17 08:11:14 UTC
He wasn't advertising the fact that he's an athiest. In fact he didn't say anything along those lines, just that he, like many others, doesn't want this sort of thing forced down his throat. I agree.

Yes, it does work both ways, so let everyone believe what they believe and keep it out of the game.

Pickles!
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#11 - 2012-07-17 08:13:38 UTC
Kehro Urgus wrote:
Can you provide empirical evidence that proves Jesus Christ is not the son of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?


...and this is where the trolls got successful.

- Keeping real life stuff out of game, OK. Religion, politics, etc... it messes up the "immersion".

- Actual discussion of such religions/politics/etc --> Shady

- Being flat out anti-religion, prohibited by the EULA:

"You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies"

If you want the cans away for messing up immersion with RL stuff... OK. If you want the cans gone because they advertize xyz religion... I'm out.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#12 - 2012-07-17 08:14:22 UTC
Fiona Tsero wrote:
People who ask for tolerance seem to forget that it works both ways.

Why do you think an atheist has to be tolerant? I'm an atheist and I would ban and persecute all religions and try to eradicate this stupidity once and for all if I was a dictator with the power to do so :)

A preference for reason has little to do with tolerance for unreason and insane beliefs.

.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#13 - 2012-07-17 08:18:48 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
Fiona Tsero wrote:
People who ask for tolerance seem to forget that it works both ways.

Why do you think an atheist has to be tolerant? I'm an atheist and I would ban and persecute all religions and try to eradicate this stupidity once and for all if I was a dictator with the power to do so :)

A preference for reason has little to do with tolerance for unreason and insane beliefs.


You don't realize that you're just as wrong here as the religions that do the same to atheists, do you?

They're opinions. I hold the opinion that pretty much every religion is a scam that grew beyond its creator, or a feel-good story to help simple minded people fall asleep at night. But you know what? I don't throw that in people's faces. Live and let live.

If you want to make the world a better place, you have to learn to get along - not try to make everyone agree with you. Getting offended by something like this is pointless and just plain stupid. It accomplishes nothing.
Dardoign
Mine n Mellow
#14 - 2012-07-17 08:22:09 UTC
I'm not an atheist and will not be drawn into a theological argument.
My point is; advertising of any description that is not Eve related has no place withinour universe.
Viewing containers labled "JESUS SAVES" does not make me wonder "Which bank?" It just makes me cringe.
It's the thin end of the wedge. If this is allowed then where does advertising stop?
Do you really want to be scrolling down 1000 containers in your overview just to find the gate you need to jump through or the asteroid you want to mine?
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#15 - 2012-07-17 08:22:24 UTC
In before the lock for discussing religion.

also

ALL HAIL THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#16 - 2012-07-17 08:23:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Shameless Avenger
From this page we get rules #3 & #9:

Rule #3:
"You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies"

Rule #9:
"You may not advertise, employ, market, or promote any form of solicitation – including pyramid schemes and chain letters – in the EVE Online game world or on the website."

So you can not be anti can because it's an Christian can. That part is clear. However, is the can a "form of solicitation"? Dunno... I'll let the internet lawyers battle this one out.

Some screen-shoots of said cans might me helpful (if allowed).

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#17 - 2012-07-17 08:24:35 UTC
Dardoign wrote:
I'm not an atheist and will not be drawn into a theological argument.
My point is; advertising of any description that is not Eve related has no place withinour universe.
Viewing containers labled "JESUS SAVES" does not make me wonder "Which bank?" It just makes me cringe.
It's the thin end of the wedge. If this is allowed then where does advertising stop?
Do you really want to be scrolling down 1000 containers in your overview just to find the gate you need to jump through or the asteroid you want to mine?


Most people turned off containers on their overview a looooooooong time ago. You only need it on a tab specifically for looting.

It still hurts to look at other people's overviews in screenshots sometimes.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#18 - 2012-07-17 08:27:12 UTC
Holy **** people are taking this so seriously.

Laugh at the cans and move on. Personally I'd just shoot them for giggles, but I don't live in babyspace.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#19 - 2012-07-17 08:28:17 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
If you want to make the world a better place, you have to learn to get along - not try to make everyone agree with you. Getting offended by something like this is pointless and just plain stupid. It accomplishes nothing.

Oh please... that's what I may do in real life. EVE is about trolling and killing and annoying everyone who isn't part of your pack :)

.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#20 - 2012-07-17 08:30:50 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Holy **** people are taking this so seriously.

Laugh at the cans and move on. Personally I'd just shoot them for giggles, but I don't live in babyspace.



Can't shoot'em in baby space... maybe, anchor a "maybe there's no God" can right next to xtian one? :D

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
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