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New Dev Blog: My OCD said fix this so I did...

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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2012-07-16 13:01:07 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Navigator
What's in a name? CCP FoxFour, our new content designer, talks about his recent work on missile designations and the way implants are presented in the market. You can read the dev blog here.

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2012-07-16 13:03:11 UTC
FIRST! BWAHAHAHAHA! First on my first dev blog! SO MUCH FUN! :D

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2012-07-16 13:06:33 UTC
Second!

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CCP Konflikt
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-07-16 13:09:17 UTC
Third. Nice graph!

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#5 - 2012-07-16 13:09:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
First player!

Now seriously, I think that the pictures for the implant category system are swapped, I guess the left picture is the "new" system and the right one is "old" system, right?

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-07-16 13:12:55 UTC
graphporn yay

good job on the market changes, very much appreciated
stoicfaux
#7 - 2012-07-16 13:14:33 UTC
What's the definition of "content" in "content designer"?

Now that FoxFour has shown that he can make a database update without destroying the database, what content ideas are being scheduled for the future?

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Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-07-16 13:16:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Takeshi Yamato
Good job!

The one thing I feel the need to nitpick about is that implant names are unnecessarily long:

Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1001

Only the underlined part of the name actually helps us understand which implant it is (please correct if wrong). The rest is a bit too much fluff. "Roleplay" relevant info should like the manufacturer name should be in the description.
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#9 - 2012-07-16 13:16:15 UTC
Gilbaron wrote:
graphporn yay

good job on the market changes, very much appreciated


I have not used mspaint in far to long and so that graph took me far longer than it should have. :P

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#10 - 2012-07-16 13:18:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Chribba
yay blog!

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Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#11 - 2012-07-16 13:18:43 UTC
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
Good job!

The one thing I feel the need to nitpick about is that implant names are unnecessarily long:

Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1001

Only the underlined part of the name actually helps us understand which implant it is (please correct if wrong). The rest is a bit too much fluff in my opinion.



People whine when the fluff is removed.


Good job on this.

and appropriate that FoxFour is talking about missiles.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#12 - 2012-07-16 13:19:45 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Gilbaron wrote:
graphporn yay

good job on the market changes, very much appreciated


I have not used mspaint in far to long and so that graph took me far longer than it should have. :P

mspaint? Do it in excel, much easier.

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Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-07-16 13:23:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Takeshi Yamato
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
Good job!

The one thing I feel the need to nitpick about is that implant names are unnecessarily long:

Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1001

Only the underlined part of the name actually helps us understand which implant it is (please correct if wrong). The rest is a bit too much fluff in my opinion.



People whine when the fluff is removed.


Yea I know but let's use some common sense here. Our ships aren't called Ishukone Shipyards 'Merlin' Strike Frigate T-03 either. They're called Merlin and the flavor text is relegated to the description.
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2012-07-16 13:23:43 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Gilbaron wrote:
graphporn yay

good job on the market changes, very much appreciated


I have not used mspaint in far to long and so that graph took me far longer than it should have. :P

mspaint? Do it in excel, much easier.


It really would have been I agree, but I find graphs drawn in MSPaint are more awesome. :P

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Cass Lie
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-07-16 13:24:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Cass Lie
The naming changes seem to make sense. Gj with the implant market interface, that is especially welcome.
Efraya
V0LTA
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#16 - 2012-07-16 13:29:32 UTC
This, I like this. Keep up the good work CCP.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#17 - 2012-07-16 13:31:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
BTW, when will these wonderful changes get to TQ?

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Nonnori Ikkala
Love for You
#18 - 2012-07-16 13:49:14 UTC
I thought Assault Missiles used to be Heavy Assault Missiles, no? And they were changed recently so that "Heavy Assault Missiles" and "Heavy Missiles" wouldn't both be in the game, because they sound too similar and are confusing? Now you're undoing that recent good work, unless I'm crazy.

Surely you want to change Heavy Assault Missile Launchers -> Assault Missile Launchers instead!? Then the potential for confusion between HAMs and Heavies will stay removed.
Valkyrs
Deep Vein Trading
#19 - 2012-07-16 13:53:06 UTC
Thanks for keeping things clean CCP! 9 years later and the small things are still important.

Keep up the good work!
Elijah Craig
Trask Industries
#20 - 2012-07-16 13:53:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Elijah Craig
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
Good job!

The one thing I feel the need to nitpick about is that implant names are unnecessarily long:

Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1001

Only the underlined part of the name actually helps us understand which implant it is (please correct if wrong). The rest is a bit too much fluff. "Roleplay" relevant info should like the manufacturer name should be in the description.

There was a big debate about this a while ago. Calling everything "Pulse Lasers +1" or "Pulse Lasers +3" would be a bit dry / boring, but also calling them "Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams" where 'Medium' should mean cruiser sized but actually it is frigate sized was misleading / overly fluffy / confusing. Same with all the missiles. Implants back in the day were a gobbledegook joke Big smile

I think there is a middle ground. A name where core info is clear, it can be easily differentiated but there's also a nice little sprikle of sci-fi flavour is best all round, which I think is where we are with this now.
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