Player Features and Ideas Discussion

- These "Titan-vessel Stations" are situated in DEEP SPACE regions on the map and/or unexplored systems that neither possess jump gates nor can be accessed by common-folk who are not affliated with these nomadic tribes.
Only pirates or frontier-corps joined with CONCORD-Frontier Armada can apply somewhere and, well, "be ported" to the respective deep space "station" aka Titan.

- These nomad Titan-fleets move through the "inbetween" deep space areas of 0.0/Lowsec Regions, say in counterclockwise fashion and/or "at random".
As the titan jumps, the entire players in the "grid" are ported to the new location (planets stay where they are lol). See it as your BSG hyperjump - or Macross/Robotech hyperjump to the "planet" Pluto , for those who remember :P.

(I can sense your headache already)

Pirates with the obvious negative Security Standings can find a home at one of the four racial "nomadic terrorist-pirate" faction that dwell in these massive Titan fleet.


- These Titan fleets remain at a secluded Deep Space position for say, 3 days - offering the chance of transporting player fleets to 0.0 star systems/constellatoins within a spherical range of x Light Years.

-> With an interactive dropdown menu, player FCs choose where they want to be ported to for engaging a pillage campaign.
(Note, this cost some serious ISK as, well, these enigmatic NPC Pirate nomads have their PRICE)

-> ~ alternatively, the titan vessel opens a (perhaps one-way) portal for players to jump into a "Starsystem of the day" randomly selected by the NPC for that particular day.
by the way, only these affiliated players can use the portals.
(These vessels coudl act as mini-stargates, if you please)

-> Titan Fleet dispatches whatever reverse-engineered jove-tech vessel to the desired star system in range, that opens a wormhole portal to that desired system and players do a right-click "Jump to xyz".

-> NPC jump vessel is at random location at the edge of the star system (preferably the larger ones with 40+ AU in radius :>)

Here begins what players can do to get some action.
Since they "dropped by out of nowhere", they just might be able to kill lucrative targets that were assuming all is safe thanks to their massive alliance with awesome intel channels, integriy blablabla.

Things can go good. Things can go bad.

Let me cover quickly for whom this is for.





Tight collective of capsuleer players, pirates (or the concord-frontier police equivalent) for instance, who want to see the universe and pillage/assault it.
Okay, concord is probably a bad one, but whatever "not so pirate" npc faction that hunts 0.0 player alliances instead.

Mmhh. These are not player-controlled Titans. Doesn't essentially have to be "Titans", but I assumed a scaled-up variant of a Titan acting as a station would be interesting.

This is aimed for groups of small corp pirates/players - and just to port here and there and do some action. It is just a possiblity for the small guys to do more stuff and who would unlikely ever get their hands on the moon goo for making their own titans.

This is kind of a "Titan for poor people", if you may.

I saw your post, looked interesting, thought about reading it, opened the thread, and then saw this monstrosity.

No. Features and Ideas does not exist as a circle jerk for your ideas. If your idea is crap, we will tell you so and hopefully you will take it to heart and either scrap it or refine it for the better.

I'll read your thread and provide feedback when you remove this line. Until then, your ideas aren't worth reading.

I apologize beforehand for being harsh in the following things I am about to say.

I do not need to apologize for the designate quote as it was more or less bait and it has been removed =). I will “ramble” about the intentions later.



Okay. I was willing at first to post in “TLDR” mode and quotes on stuff, but now that I found that if I can troll back on people who do false assumptions or are afraid of posts being more extensive then their epeen - good for me. I can foresee what I’ll get from it.

Since I’m a writer, I can write with ease. Whatever one may think , I can write easily and spew as much rounds as an AC - sucks to be you, in that case. Can’t handle it, then well - My dud quote or HTFU. You are free to do what you like in the Eve Forums. Same here.


Anyhow. The actual extensive response to stuff is longer and below this posting. This is to ensure that I am talking about the idea itself and responds first before “rambling” about my actual intention of this thread : D!

But I will stick to responding first before actually stating why I said “Don’t like, don’t post”.



Argh, I’ve been critically hurt *dying swan move*. =D

Glad I got your attention. My intention worked somewhat.
My quote you have there had a plot behind it, regarding “discussion”.

Don’t need to get over with what I already know of. I do not need to respond thoroughly on that because I did so in a matter of minutes in a posting about to come below.

CCP knows what’s good for the game or not. We both and everybody else who plays knows how things can impact. They decide if it sucks in the end. Not you, me or anybody else. Debating about crappy ideas is another thing. That’s fine by me, so screw that assumption.

My idea can be used for a “Large Big thing” or a small minor thing - likewise, a few aspects of it could take over. However, I actually said that it is to be SMALL because it has to build from there before snowballing to some big thing you and others are so scared about.
Calm down.


(I’m sure you just said “FU, don’t need you saying that” =D )

The sole idea of the OP was giving at least a small band of pirate-players ways to jump a few light-years into the unknown territory and see if they can do damage and pillage; or fail, depends.
Also to live for a while at a “Flying Circus/LAPUTA” sort of non-POS as you could say, where they could perhaps live. This “non-POS” would jump here and there every few days and give them a way to pay visit to places in similar fashion to W-SPACE (you can play with the idea about W-Space etc).
Remember, only a small gang/corp (no ally) can use this.
See it as a small Tour of Duty thing where players could live at these moving pirate stations. The “Non-Pos” is moving to avoid being compromised by enemy factions and of course to harvest other constellations.

Not everybody is pirate in eve, and the very few numbers that could jump over would only be a small gang… Small gang pvp - I did not say “conquer SOV space”.
Also, it is just to be an additional opportunity to do 0.0 PVP;
- giving Pirates the chance to invade, die - or kill/loot something and run
- giving carebears in big alliances to be worried about something, as well as the big allies reasons to destroy the NPC-jump ship.

Impact is not major at all. Of course, if you are the carebear… oh dear. But let’s not forget, Wspace-Wormholes are something very very similar to what I said.
More later.

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And crappy ideas are all in the eyes of the beholders. I know the idea was going to be chewed by “your-types” because it is out of the box and different. But I can defend my idea too and likewise as how you could give a damn, so can I respectively - and respectively.

If you are capable, read the actual postings of mine further below (coming soon). But here, this time really intending that phrase that intentionally was to disturb you: Care to read the “ramble”?
Free to do what you want, just like in eve. I for sure got what I wanted already.
And honestly, the game can of course run without all the ideas everybody is rambling much to your royal annoyance - I can live without it, but I can post
And nonetheless…

This is the Features and Ideas Discussions forums. People are going to post ideas whether you like them or not. They know they are likely to suck, but they would rather like you, the typing-impaired, giving real constructive criticism, so we can do the “D-word” (discussion and debate) about it. Get over with it.

Read it all. Thank you for posting.

But just one last thing about your posting.

This here from the Sticky’ed Thread of Features & Ideas Discussion by the moderator:


In terms of number one, I gave - thanks to “rambling” or just being damn detailed enough - enough for you to add some constructive things. Yes, you are not entitled to do such - oh wait, ground rules. I know the mod won’t come to my rescue as I am likely breaking rules myself.
But just saying. Shred the idea if you must
- BUT SHRED IT with text, or don’t bother =) Hence, that bait quote, despite missing “add at least one detailed sentence about the idea’s content”. Just because I say don’t bother or don’t post doesn’t mean a rat’s ass about what you will actually write or do.
I suppose I will just add the first ground rule to future threads.
I for one cannot be accused of being too blunt with posting far too little for an idea…

My following postings actually belong to a different thread, just like several others who posted here as it is about “BB Forum Ethics” and not about the idea. In a perfect world, a CCP mod would have deleted various things I and others said and just filter out the texts related to denouncing (or god forbid agreeing to) the idea, but this is likely impossible.

And I am looking forward to responding to the posts above this one, because I can point out on various things.
I know people just want to hear about the idea etc, but I will leave that for last, because I have a small opportunity to point on stuff.

Likewise - people saying “You did not think everything through, you did not add enough info, fail” is likely the same who are quick with “TLDR” in just about every post. Disagreeing to this specific idea, I was fine with that long before any posting =) assuming otherwise is, well, holding false assumptions - common in the forum culture.
So I’m sure the same will have a problem with this posting as they will see it as a ramble. Well, here again I will ask/say:
Can you handle the heat of my assumptions about you? Can you read beyond this line without turning around?

I doubt any are willing to continue from this point about the idea on since they are likely to be insulted by the quoted line (Don’t like, Don’t Post), but I am glad I could use this opportunity to specific reactions
- because I wanted to also shed light on some things people are not actually aware of themselves or how they act in connection to Features & Ideas Discussions; not to mention the sticky’ed rules : D.



But do take the time to read this stuff before I look back on the idea discussion.

Same for those who follow every single definition of F&ID .
One thing for sure I want to point on is that ideas, not just mine, but also others are indeed not for the reading-impaired. I see various people neither following the forum-rules, nor being aware of them, nor actually even taking the time to go through the actual idea (nobody is forced to do that). However, some just run through and just go “Oh I know… TLDR, I stopped reading after xyz - add my face when images, oh you just can’t handle that you’re wrong” (though F&ID isn’t about being right or wrong.

Evaluating ideas is the point of course - hence discussion. I know certain were going to be molested by the quoted tagline, and I’m glad my secondary meaningless intentions because I can put a spotlight on something else I wanted you to ejaculate on actually. *wink, wink*

I'm not a fan of justification posts not dealing with the actual because THAT is what makes true rambling (more later on that topic) but this requires one.


This first:
Due to forum limitations, I will require a few more than one post due to the fact that 3k characters are allowed and not 6k (at least that was in the way when I was posting the first two times, so don't say otherwise). Especially buggy "remove html link" requests although I do no have any URLs posted.

So somewhere, excuse incoming wall of text - Actually, I don't need to excuse that one because I will explain that later.
Should be interesting for the TLDR zombies that currently reside in all parts of the forum worlds, and for those who assume all can be said with one word...




And not to mention just WHY I applied a TLDR before the descriptive portion of the idea, followed by the quoted line below this sentence.
Doing favor? Most certainly not, but since there are self-esteemed oneliner-posters here, I thought I’d allow something different. That was pretty much just for those who can't bother to read due to limitations of "
- Three sentences only, rest is too much/a lot
- extreme cases of TL;DR-itis
- Men sparingly with their sperm for bukkakke moments
etc





I assumed that line would cause some headaches for some and would've been surprised if none had responded to it.

It was intended to be aggressive and I do so intended to remove it afterwards once this posting is done.

The reason why I wrote it because I wanted to see who'd actually read beyond it the line
- Yes, contraproductive in terms of F&I "Discussions", but a filter as I now know who'd I'm dealing with.

A minor gate bait, you could say. No biggie.


Everybody is free to do what they want, duh, as they (you) did just know. Who said I was holding any of you back?

Now, I did actually add more to that line, but removed it because I said, “Wait, let me see something”.

The actual line went more like:
bad ideas do not need to be bumped by pages of posters saying "not in my Eve".
IF you do not like it, post once but make sure if somebody said "It sucks" already, no need to bump it again.

I knew some would feel immediately molested as it is like removing the freedom of speech, but I wanted to see the reaction from those very specific people who claim to be the suggestion police but disregard key things of the FID forum rules.

In terms of “If you think the idea sucks” -> “let the thread die, avoid bumping unless you can write Constructive Texts people can work with.
Following that, dead and empty threads will be pushed down to lock mode and all will know "no need to look here".
But all in all, it was just a sentence =), yet several took it as a kick right in the balls.

Yes, you are all nonetheless the judges of when, if and how you post. It is your freedom.
However - If I open a thread to debate about stuff, too, and I see the (same) specific people ignoring the forum rules - “well, don’t need y’all wonderin’ ”….

As proven, I can also write up the idea in that detail, in that length, in that mass.

It would have been just as lengthy and you would not bother to read even if it were better than the bible.
So, I will post as desired. Sorry if you eyes hurt. I know what will come, if it happens.

But I enjoyed writing it. Anyhow, I'm sure you'll be pissed to oblivion about my future thread postings.

And read the bio of this character. I'm sure the roleplay factor of it says enough :P.

You wrote a lot of stuff.

Assume harder.

It has a beginning and an ending; yet also featuring "starting small".
You can't complain about half-baked if you are afraid of game-breaking.
You are also not obliged to read all the stuff I wrote either.

And you obviously gave your public opinion.

Don't write what makes me say "duh" at the end of your responses.


You have to state the half-baked/bre part to allow further debate.
Instead of wasting time, might as well could just focus on the idea itself rather than adding definitions about public forumns. If you read a bit further, you woould have figured that it was a bit of a bait.

Regarding CCP, of course we have control to some content, and they're happy we are debating about things, but if you sound like things will come true just like that and I doubt that - not to mention 100%ly as one imagined it.

How about stating the exact things of what makes the idea terrible, as in the first ground rule of that sticky thread?
And be thorough. If you can't, well, then one cannot take you seriously but just a random entity in Jita local chat.

Again, this is about debating about it, not because your assumpting of me feeling sort of rectum trauma :).

I know. Thought so.