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Katrina Oniseki

Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch

Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive

Likes received: 3,476

#1 - 2012-07-13 15:45:05 UTC

Finally, after years of languishing as the worse of the plate line, Tech 2 armor plates will finally have a niche. They will sport a much larger buffer than Meta 4. The current changes are now on SiSi. Can we expect this change to be a harbinger of more change to come? Perhaps we can see other Tech 2 versions becoming more worthwhile such as ECM or Neuts?

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100mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
armorHPBonusAdd: 263.0 => 300.0

1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
armorHPBonusAdd: 4200.0 => 4800.0

200mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
armorHPBonusAdd: 528.0 => 600.0

400mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
armorHPBonusAdd: 1053.0 => 1200.0

50mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
armorHPBonusAdd: 131.0 => 150.0

800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
armorHPBonusAdd: 2103.0 => 2400.0

Katrina Oniseki

Forcas armadas Brave Collective 1,019
Renan Ruivo Forcas armadas Brave Collective Likes received: 1,019	#2 - 2012-07-13 15:47:23 UTC 3 Hey, i forgot to complain about this ... Is it too late? The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Vellen Thoss

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 43

#3 - 2012-07-13 15:49:53 UTC

Katrina Oniseki wrote:

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For me the difference in armor points wasnt the reason for fitting RTT. It was the PG.

Renan Ruivo

Forcas armadas

Brave Collective

Likes received: 1,019

#4 - 2012-07-13 15:58:39 UTC

Vellen Thoss wrote:

Katrina Oniseki wrote:

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For me the difference in armor points wasnt the reason for fitting RTT. It was the PG.

That is one of the main reasons for fitting any meta 4 over T2. It's not exclusive for the RTT.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Cierejai

Biofuel Productions

Likes received: 42

#5 - 2012-07-13 16:03:39 UTC

Renan Ruivo wrote:

Vellen Thoss wrote:

Katrina Oniseki wrote:

Quote:

For me the difference in armor points wasnt the reason for fitting RTT. It was the PG.

That is one of the main reasons for fitting any meta 4 over T2. It's not exclusive for the RTT.

I'm not a space expert but currently the armor bonus is the same on the meta 4 and T2, so there is no reason to use the T2.

Ever.

The Scope Gallente Federation 557
tgl3 The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 557	#6 - 2012-07-13 16:19:11 UTC Cierejai wrote: I'm not a space expert but currently the armor bonus is the same on the meta 4 and T2, so there is no reason to use the T2. Ever. Correct, this is the current issue. Glad to see this change!

Pirannha Corp 3,519
Dinsdale Pirannha Pirannha Corp Likes received: 3,519	#7 - 2012-07-13 16:28:43 UTC tgl3 wrote: Cierejai wrote: I'm not a space expert but currently the armor bonus is the same on the meta 4 and T2, so there is no reason to use the T2. Ever. Correct, this is the current issue. Glad to see this change! And that crashing sound is that of Rolled Tungsten plate prices.

Renan Ruivo

Forcas armadas

Brave Collective

Likes received: 1,019

#8 - 2012-07-13 16:32:04 UTC

Cierejai wrote:

Renan Ruivo wrote:

Vellen Thoss wrote:

Katrina Oniseki wrote:

Quote:

For me the difference in armor points wasnt the reason for fitting RTT. It was the PG.

That is one of the main reasons for fitting any meta 4 over T2. It's not exclusive for the RTT.

I'm not a space expert but currently the armor bonus is the same on the meta 4 and T2, so there is no reason to use the T2.

Ever.

I said "one of the" and not "the only".

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Ranger 1

Ranger Corp

Vae. Victis.

Likes received: 6,345

#9 - 2012-07-13 16:33:16 UTC | Edited by: Ranger 1

Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

tgl3 wrote:

Cierejai wrote:

I'm not a space expert but currently the armor bonus is the same on the meta 4 and T2, so there is no reason to use the T2.

Ever.

Correct, this is the current issue. Glad to see this change!

And that crashing sound is that of Rolled Tungsten plate prices.

I believe Rolled Tungsten would still have an advantage in weight.

Still, it's a change long overdue.

I'd also like to see the other types of armor plate actually have some properly scaled advantages/disadvantages so that they got used instead of reprocessed. Perhaps a tiny bit of inherent resistance to one type of damage or the other and greater granularity in their weight penalties, both depending on the material the plate was constructed from.

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Sunshine and Lollipops 27,526
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops Likes received: 27,526	#10 - 2012-07-13 16:33:41 UTC 2 Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: And that crashing sound is that of Rolled Tungsten plate prices. Nah. Ok, it'll crash some (but it has already done so anyway), but fitting space and less mass penalty will still be valuable. Look at meta-4 shield expanders — they sell like crazy even though T2 expanders provide better protection.

Rashmika Clavain

Revelation Space

Likes received: 92

#11 - 2012-07-13 16:49:02 UTC

Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

tgl3 wrote:

Cierejai wrote:

I'm not a space expert but currently the armor bonus is the same on the meta 4 and T2, so there is no reason to use the T2.

Ever.

Correct, this is the current issue. Glad to see this change!

And that crashing sound is that of Rolled Tungsten plate prices.

Ahaha at least the meta 4 may have a function when inventing the T2 modules. I love this change :0) For me, Meta 4 should be easier to fit but not surpass T2 strengths ue to the lack of training required for meta 4.

I always thought the RT plates were a little out of sync.

Caucasian Culture Club 106
Pink Marshmellow Caucasian Culture Club Likes received: 106	#12 - 2012-07-13 18:38:38 UTC They'll need to change faction plates. Other than the federation navy 1600mm which has the lowest mass(lower pg requirements would be good for this), the other have no advantages over normal plates.

Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 15,906
Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire Likes received: 15,906	#13 - 2012-07-13 18:51:50 UTC 10 Bulkheads need buff too ★★★ Secure 3rd party service ★★★ Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Twitter @ChribbaVeldspar

Hoshi

Incredible.

Brave Collective

Likes received: 58

#14 - 2012-07-13 18:58:40 UTC

Pink Marshmellow wrote:

They'll need to change faction plates.

Other than the federation navy 1600mm which has the lowest mass(lower pg requirements would be good for this), the other

have no advantages over normal plates.

It's because they fixed the problem the wrong way. The problem was not that T2 was not good enough but that RT was too good.

"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."

DarthNefarius

Minmatar Heavy Industries

Likes received: 1,307

#15 - 2012-07-13 22:00:54 UTC | Edited by: DarthNefarius

Cierejai wrote:

I'm not a space expert but currently the armor bonus is the same on the meta 4 and T2, so there is no reason to use the T2.

Ever.

Actually there is 1 reason to fit faction plates especially Fed Navy plates: they are the lightest. Do the facion plates get the same bouses the T2 plates do on Sisi??

An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'

Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 2,368
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 2,368	#16 - 2012-07-13 22:18:56 UTC Renan Ruivo wrote: Hey, i forgot to complain about this ... Is it too late? It's never too late to complain and get laughed at. ~ Professional Forum Alt ~

Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 124
Korsiri Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 124	#17 - 2012-07-13 23:27:29 UTC Interesting!

Doomheim 457
Eternal Error Doomheim Likes received: 457	#18 - 2012-07-13 23:47:29 UTC I am 100% against this change (and said so in the original thread). The last thing we need is larger buffers.

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Luis Graca Likes received: 236	#19 - 2012-07-14 01:22:28 UTC congratulation for finding that you want some cookies now for that achievement?

Space Mutiny 1,972
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny Likes received: 1,972	#20 - 2012-07-14 01:44:06 UTC My only beef is, why advanced steel? I want advanced Rolled Tungsten.

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