Market Discussions

The statement was merely "It should be obvious." Knowing what it is was implied, of course, but not said, because, well...it should be obvious.

oh dear me it appears we already invaded the regions that held the obvious mineral for this

Hint: Alchemy = buy oxytopes.

BANG!

... and the Cobalt... is gone...

so if i understand this right (i'm clueless about moon goo and production and junk like that) the new alchemy things means you can make tech from other stuff. yes?

so, will tech drop in price or will other stuff go up in price as every one starts making tech?
i'm guessing prices rising?

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My only question, and I leave it for more diligent people that I to figure out, is this: Precisely when did Cobalt go insane, and precisely when did the dev blog appear?

"Initial draft" tech alchemy is 10 Plat Tech = 100 cobalt + (100-95=)5 platinum + 1h of fuel for 3000+tf (which would be 20 fuel blocs or around 350k ISK).
So that's 1 PT = 10 cobalt + 0.5 plat + 35k ISK for fuel (the old alchemy 20:1 tech:cobalt replacement ratios)
Plat Tech used to sell for around 92k ISK lately, but it will almost certainly be falling.

Cobalt used to sell for ~500 but it recently spiked to over 3k, Platinum was around 2.5k and now it's around 4.5k, so that's 30k from Cobalt, barely over 2k from Platinum, 35k from fuel, making PT cost 67k to manufacture.
Add in at least 100m ISK/mo per reactor profit to make it start worth bothering with (7,200 units/reactor/month), so another 14k minimum, and you're looking at a 81k price for PT down from the previous 92k trade level.
Not a lot less, but still noteworthy.
That would cap tech price at around 145k-155k or thereabouts. Assuming Cobalt/Platinum or fuel block prices would not spike, and assuming people would be willing to accept a mere 100m per month from a reactor. So, maybe, tech price won't be going down much in the long run, but it won't go up more as it could have if there was no tech alchemy at all.
Depends how long they'd keep the reactions at that level.

They could/should/would eventually bring the replacement ratios further down from 10 Cobalt and 20 fuel blocks more in line with other current alchemy numbers (2.5 Cobalt and 5 fuel blocs and just 3.5k minimum added expected minimum profit, so the new 5:1 alchemy), which would make it much cheaper (assuming cobalt and platinum would NOT spike even further in price, to a mere 22k per unit of PT). That would cap tech to a negligible price compared to the current level, probably below 40k per unit.
Of course, in that case, I expect both cobalt and platinum to go up more, and I also expect people to want more monthly profit from reactors than a measly 100m/mo/reactor, so before any further changes, we might as well still see tech over 60k per unit (or even a bit higher) even with the VASTLY buffed alchemy reactions.
Depends how much it takes them to implement OTHER changes on top of just alchemy.

Unless they also nerf need for tech in ships, tech still remains the most valuable moongoo.
Just less valuable than it used to be... as in, not OMFGWTFexpensive, just NOMNOMexpensive.

P.S. Cobalt might not break 3k, it might even stay barely above the 2k solo extraction fuel breakeven, and instead platinum could go up a lot more. Or they might both not do much. Depends on a lot of stuff I don't have the time to crunch numbers for right now.