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So Riddle Me This....
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Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-07-11 15:10:44 UTC
Eves Buddy Invite program,

Invite a buddy, get gametime or plex. Seems simple enough, but apparently not.

It only seems to count if they subscribe to the game in certain ways.

The fact that there is a record of you sending an invite? - Doesn't matter.


The fact that there is record of that invite being accepted -Doesn't matter.


The fact that records show the trial was activated? -Ditto.


The fact that there is a record that three days later, that trial moved up to a full subscription? -Doesn't matter.


So, let's review, shall we?

The simple terms were Invite -> Create account -> Account upgrades to subscription -> win!

The terms that were met?
Invite -> Yup

Friend created account using your invite? -> Yup

Friend handed over the monthly upgrade cost and subsctiption fee? ->Check indeed

Recieved Plex? -> Nope.


Why? Because they used Steam. NOT because they didn't upgrade, Not because they aren't a paying subscriber. NOT because they failed to use MY invite.


Because of how they purchased their time.


Is there something that is apparently buried in the ToS that states that Steam isn't eligable for the program? Yeah, if you look for it before sending the invite through the MASSIVE invite your friends button.

But the problem remains, Irregardless of HOW they entered their paying account status, the fact is they would have monthly continued to pay Eve.
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
#2 - 2012-07-11 15:13:08 UTC
TL;DR

The buddy program has a guideline that you need to follow, your "buddy" didn't follow the rules. No plex for you.
Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-07-11 15:18:49 UTC
Andoria Thara wrote:
TL;DR

The buddy program has a guideline that you need to follow, your "buddy" didn't follow the rules. No plex for you.



I could care less about the plex, it's the idea behind it.

It's bloody ludicrous to look at where they got the game client from to determine reward.

How is him using Steam stopping them from getting THEIR monthly fee? On what grounds does it make sense to use that as an excuse to nullify the reward program?
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
#4 - 2012-07-11 15:32:46 UTC
Rules are rules. If they didn't follow the rules specified on the Buddy Program, then it doesn't count.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-07-11 15:34:12 UTC
Because Steam is a reseller with their own promotionals.

Don't ban me, bro!
Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-07-11 15:36:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Kormoran Theodin
Mr Kidd wrote:
Because Steam is a reseller with their own promotionals.



Account was purchased non-promotional and Eve receives all monthly payments, not Steam.


Really, the question is, is it rational to lose three subscriptions that would have continued in perpetuity because one of them got the game client from somewhere other then Eve?
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#7 - 2012-07-11 15:44:02 UTC
Did your buddy pay real monies to activate his account which included the 5 euro activation fee? Once that is done, plex shall be yours.
Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-07-11 15:45:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Kormoran Theodin
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Did your buddy pay real monies to activate his account which included the 5 euro activation fee? Once that is done, plex shall be yours.


That's the argument. He did activate his account for the required fee. But because he got the game from Steam the PLEX offer is nullified even should he continue paying Eve monthly.
Kormoran Theodin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-07-11 15:51:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Kormoran Theodin
Answer from a GM:



Quote:
This is because in the past when STEAM CD-Keys were eligible for buddy invites, they were abused horribly, resulting in thousands of accounts being created using STEAM keys to get buddy rewards.

This has sadly resulted in us barring Steam CD-Keys from being used for buddy account activation.




Sigh. Good to see the f-ups of a few can affect the many.


Leads me to wonder, If Steam is such a screw up of a platform, and it does nothing but screw over potential new subscribers, why haven't Eve and Co. pulled their rights to resale?
Arknox
Alternate Mining Methods
#10 - 2012-07-11 16:00:06 UTC
Kormoran Theodin wrote:


But the problem remains, Irregardless of HOW they entered their paying account status, the fact is they would have monthly continued to pay Eve.


Kormoran Theodin wrote:

Irregardless of HOW



Kormoran Theodin wrote:

Irregardless


*twitch*
Ladris Dracor
Avalon Technologies
#11 - 2012-07-11 16:02:16 UTC
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-07-11 16:03:33 UTC
Kormoran Theodin wrote:
Leads me to wonder, If Steam is such a screw up of a platform, and it does nothing but screw over potential new subscribers, why haven't Eve and Co. pulled their rights to resale?


Because the EVE software is free.

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Ladris Dracor
Avalon Technologies
#13 - 2012-07-11 16:04:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Ladris Dracor
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Kormoran Theodin wrote:
Leads me to wonder, If Steam is such a screw up of a platform, and it does nothing but screw over potential new subscribers, why haven't Eve and Co. pulled their rights to resale?


Because the EVE software is free.



If by free you meant you purchase a game key from Steam, yeah.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/8500/
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-07-11 16:08:21 UTC
Ladris Dracor wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Kormoran Theodin wrote:
Leads me to wonder, If Steam is such a screw up of a platform, and it does nothing but screw over potential new subscribers, why haven't Eve and Co. pulled their rights to resale?


Because the EVE software is free.



If by free you meant you purchase a game key from Steam, yeah.


No. Game software is free.

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Ladris Dracor
Avalon Technologies
#15 - 2012-07-11 16:10:34 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:


No. Game software is free.



Let's try that again, with you looking at the link this time?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-07-11 16:13:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Ladris Dracor wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


No. Game software is free.



Let's try that again, with you looking at the link this time?


EVE software is free. It's not CCP's fault that people pay money for something you can get for free.

Granted that someone does end up paying money for it, but why pay real money when you can download the software for free & gank/steal your way to free account activation P

It doesn't change the fact that the EVE software is free.

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Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-07-11 16:13:52 UTC
This is a terrible riddle.

Hello, hello again.
Grandpa Bill
Twin Lakes Retirement Home
#18 - 2012-07-11 16:20:42 UTC
Degren wrote:
This is a terrible riddle.


I gots me a better riddle and I'll give 10 mil ISK to whoever gets it first. (Dont use the google nets!)

The beginning of eternity
The end of time and space
The beginning of every end,
And the end of every place



Grandpa Bill
tgl3
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-07-11 16:22:31 UTC
Grandpa Bill wrote:
Degren wrote:
This is a terrible riddle.


I gots me a better riddle and I'll give 10 mil ISK to whoever gets it first. (Dont use the google nets!)

The beginning of eternity
The end of time and space
The beginning of every end,
And the end of every place




"e"
Do I win?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-07-11 16:23:18 UTC
The answer is in the riddle itself. To anyone who pays attention, they will know the answer is E
The rest will just google it.

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