Intergalactic Summit

Ms Jenneth, I am not sure if you have lumped me in with the "gender-morality double-standard" you mention, if so you are in error. My concern is for the child in question and those surrounding them. I am, by nature, a sociopath, Murder has always come easily to me, I do not discriminate on race, gender, social standings. I will kill my fellow Matar if I find that they are aligned against my tribes or my allies. I will kill a man or a woman without a second thought and I will kill a President, Empress or Sanmatar just as quickly as a begger if I have the motivation to do so. Where I do, and always will, draw the line is children.

I know there are other people just as quick to come to murder as I, and we empyrean's rise to it faster then most. I try to think of myself as a killer with a conscience, flexible but its still there. So let me say this to you Kat. My concerns may be unfounded, they probably are, but I will be wiring you 3 million ISK. Your child will not want for anything, education to the finest institutions will be paid for, even if you choose to betray my people by choosing an Amarrian institution I will pay it. And when your child is of age they will receive a final payment 3 million ISK to do with as they wish.

I do this because, as I said, I have a soft spot for children and I do fear for yours after making such a foolish move, against an empyrean, in public and dispite MsJenneth's musings that most likely nothing will happen, and she is more then likely correct, I would rather the child be safe. Contact me if you agree, the only stipulation being that you end this thread my friend.

I would like to point out that while this is not the best way to find the father - at least she is trying.

She has willingly accepted the ridicule that comes from admitting she does not know who her child's father is in an attempt to find him. A child always wonders - and knowing young enough to have a relationship with the person is healing.

I had to wait until I had the vast resources available to a capsuleer and the ability to pay my way into getting doctors to do blood typing tests - often in private medical records - to track down my father. I had names of almost 20 men to track down - some of which did not have blood records to be had. At least she is trying - unlike my mother who would not even give me the information she had. I had to find it myself.

Toward the comment about who will take care of the child while his mother flies the skies - children go to school, children of capsuleers can go to the best schools, with the best nannies, and never want for anything. Then in the evening - a quick jump clone hop and Mommy is home as if nothing ever happened.

Rest in Peace Father - I am glad I know.

Aria I have added you as a neutral contact and would be happy to discuss whatever issues you would like at anytime. To the rest of the ladies, Syyl'ara and Zuzanna along with the others who have had issues with the more primitive male responses I would like to point out women's rights and equality moments that have said, time and again, that a woman is every bit the equal of a male. A man has no right to go around, bedding and impregnating everything insight and expect to skate on the issue, but adversely a woman cannot expect to be bedded and impregnated without consequences.

I have lived my life under the philosophy that, unless a person is related to you by blood, expect betrayal. I loved my wife, with all my heart, she was the moon of my life, but the sun has always been my daughters and my Tribe. She knew this, she understood this and I was her moon obfuscated by our children and our people, it is the way a Matari should live their life.

But had she ever betrayed me, the fault would have been her's, but it would have also been mine. Its easy for the men here to say its the woman's fault and for women to say the same about the men, but the truth is the fault always lies with you. You are the only one who has to live with your fault's, with your failings and with your demons. You can blame the phantom limb, but it is not there, only you are, male or female.

I'll concede that she is indeed doing right by this child, and I have no way to know what sort of life the child lives. Judging that she managed to place a post here, she's either an empyrean herself or someone well enough connected. In all likelihood, the family is probably rather secure.

I am honestly just disgusted by this entire affair. Relationships are taken far too casually these days.

Help was offered Anabella, and excessive offer in my opinion. We are just waiting to formalize the offer. Instead of social grandstanding, reading through the responses, all of them, would serve you well beloved sister in arms.

Merited, in most cases. Ill see you downrange Ms Rella.

I only have so much money and even less of a charitable nature.

You misunderstand my use of the word "other," Mr. Muertas. Bear in mind who I was addressing.

I'm not talking about setting up a charity, just refraining from adding to the troubles of women who already have plenty.

... Natalcya ... I'm going to do you the courtesy of presuming that you didn't run fast enough and those are the implants talking.

Oh, right. Your mother. Scratch that.

Fine. Let's do a quick comparison-contrast. You had an over-busy and largely absentee mother. That's scarring, obviously enough.

I got a bit wider sampling: Mother was weak, Grandfather was cold, Father was ... well, Father. Grandmother was, and presumably still is, maternal yet tyrannical.

I would have preferred any of them, maybe even Father, to the creche. Even a boarding school doesn't compare to the sense of isolation, of being fundamentally alone in a crowded room.


Mr. Muertas:

Give her a bit, pilot. You only made that offer a few hours ago; we don't even know whether she has easy access here.

My children are good girls, they obey, they listen they will be better then the sum of their mother and most assuredly their father. They love me and it would break their heart to know what their sun is capable of, but I am a monster and this was what I am trying to express to you, the duality of human nature and the over pronouncement of that nature in this community. I hope my girls never look to hard at their father, they wont like what they see and the same may be true for your son. I hope I am wrong, but just know that a child who has grown up with their parents is looking out from the house, those who dont and find that person later are looking in on the house and that house never actually looks like home.

My offer stands, and if you do find something in the shadows that turns on you, I pledge this Tribes support to make safe your son.