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Why do you alt post?

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#261 - 2012-07-06 03:15:28 UTC
I want to see homework, I want to see homework. Make this thread worth coming to.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne

None ofthe Above
#262 - 2012-07-06 03:16:42 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Do not take this as me siding with you or them, I am merely looking at this from the point of view of the numerous people who's threads have been derailed by what appears to be an endless argument between the same two or three people.


Sadly yes, it is a bit of an eternal argument - in the days before the internet this kind of thing would have been resolved with a fight behind the bikesheds or a swift kicking on the waste ground beside the public house. But the world of international MMO's has heralded a wondrous new era of consequence-free unpleasantness where people feel entitled to says things that would have gotten them soundly thrashed in the decades before. But that I imagine is what they call progress.





So how about progressing this a little further and taking it out of this persons thread before it gets locked eh?


Hence the problem with that policy. Maybe that needs to be rethunk?

Seriously guys, you all look terribad at this point. Pipa/Ruby, Zim, Alavaria (yes I see that in your sig), Lapine AND Jade.

You've been mud wrestling for pages now and you are all dirty.

Cutter is right, Its pretty rude to dump this in this thread.

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#263 - 2012-07-06 03:45:33 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:
Cutter is right, Its pretty rude to dump this in this thread.

To be honest, I pretty much expected someone would dump in this thread when I posted it, and I knew "I hate Goonswarm" would be involved in one way or another. Jade was a surprise, though.

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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#264 - 2012-07-06 04:32:17 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Guys.

Guys!

Errrrrm...Guys?

It is just a video-game.

Isn't it?

EVE is real.

I was there.


... on the General Discussion forums.


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Benjamin Eastwood
#265 - 2012-07-06 04:52:30 UTC
The anonymity is nice. Not having to watch what you say because of a potential fireball exploding is kinda fun too. I wouldn't knock people who post with their main's or alt's for legitimate conversations, but it's not sensible for some people to do so, especially if their main is in a position where everything they say seems like a) gospel or b) a press release. Forum trolls will be forum trolls, "main" or otherwise, you're not going to stop it by telling someone to man-up over the internet.

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Aggressive Nutmeg
#266 - 2012-07-06 05:33:24 UTC
I don't have a main. I have several mains used in almost equal measure.

Which one do I post with? All of them?

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.

Pipa Porto
#267 - 2012-07-06 05:35:13 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
wrote:
Pipa Porto There you go, you've been asked by someone's main.


Well he (in particular) does need to answer the question I asked him first of course. I'm hardly likely to pay him the respect of giving him an answer while he's still dodging and wriggling the question I asked him first am I ?


You mean this post?

Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
You really aren't all that special except for the La Maison stuff ...

And the irony being your directors made up the "La Maison stuff" / allegations of RL prostitution / child pornography etc simply to try to smear an internet spaceship election campaign and try to lose an eve player their RL job. You guys went as far as creating fake websites, erotic fan fiction and a rl letter writing campaign - you were pretty damned serious about it.


That's the allegation you're being asked to prove. Linking a site does nothing to prove that, unless you can prove the provenance.

You allege the Following, long before you asked Zim any questions:
1) Goonswarm Directors created the following
a) La Maison
b) RL Prostitution/CP claims
c) websites that purported to be under your control, including Erotic Fan Fiction
d) administered a letter writing campaign
2) they did this with the intention to make your CSM campaign fail
3) they did this with the intention to make you lose your job

TBH, I've seen no evidence that they created anything. They may be culpable in continued hosting of La Maison (whoever created it)*, but that's all I've ever seen you prove.

*Hosting it's in poor taste if it's without any provenance (and I haven't really looked for any).

PS: While I grant that someone else brought up La Maison, you are the only one who I've ever seen bring up references to RL prostitution/cp in any thread, and you did bring up (for no apparent reason, this purported GSF hatred of you) before that.

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-RubyPorto

Josef Djugashvilis
#268 - 2012-07-06 05:54:21 UTC
Because my views, and those of my corp may differ from time to time, and I have no wish to bring the 'wrong' sort of attention to them.

Also, it gives the goons something to whinge about.

This is not a signature.

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#269 - 2012-07-06 06:00:35 UTC
Always post with main.

Whats the point of pissing people off if they don't know who pissed them off?
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#270 - 2012-07-06 06:07:50 UTC
I post with my surrogate.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Josef Djugashvilis
#271 - 2012-07-06 06:10:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Lord Zim wrote:
And some people can't post responsibly at all.


Stop putting yourself down.

One day you will make a post without managing to sound hurt and angrySmile

This is not a signature.

Josef Djugashvilis
#272 - 2012-07-06 06:29:11 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
wrote:
Pipa Porto There you go, you've been asked by someone's main.


Well he (in particular) does need to answer the question I asked him first of course. I'm hardly likely to pay him the respect of giving him an answer while he's still dodging and wriggling the question I asked him first am I ?


You mean this post?

Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
You really aren't all that special except for the La Maison stuff ...

And the irony being your directors made up the "La Maison stuff" / allegations of RL prostitution / child pornography etc simply to try to smear an internet spaceship election campaign and try to lose an eve player their RL job. You guys went as far as creating fake websites, erotic fan fiction and a rl letter writing campaign - you were pretty damned serious about it.


That's the allegation you're being asked to prove. Linking a site does nothing to prove that, unless you can prove the provenance.

You allege the Following, long before you asked Zim any questions:
1) Goonswarm Directors created the following
a) La Maison
b) RL Prostitution/CP claims
c) websites that purported to be under your control, including Erotic Fan Fiction
d) administered a letter writing campaign
2) they did this with the intention to make your CSM campaign fail
3) they did this with the intention to make you lose your job

TBH, I've seen no evidence that they created anything. They may be culpable in continued hosting of La Maison (whoever created it)*, but that's all I've ever seen you prove.

*Hosting it's in poor taste if it's without any provenance (and I haven't really looked for any).

PS: While I grant that someone else brought up La Maison, you are the only one who I've ever seen bring up references to RL prostitution/cp in any thread, and you did bring up (for no apparent reason, this purported GSF hatred of you) before that.


All it would take to settle this horrible affair, would be for mittens to issue a statement saying that the goons have never had anything to do with this issue in any way shape or form.

Not going to happen is it.

This is not a signature.

Pipa Porto
#273 - 2012-07-06 06:34:06 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:

Well he (in particular) does need to answer the question I asked him first of course. I'm hardly likely to pay him the respect of giving him an answer while he's still dodging and wriggling the question I asked him first am I ?


You mean this post?

Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
You really aren't all that special except for the La Maison stuff ...

And the irony being your directors made up the "La Maison stuff" / allegations of RL prostitution / child pornography etc simply to try to smear an internet spaceship election campaign and try to lose an eve player their RL job. You guys went as far as creating fake websites, erotic fan fiction and a rl letter writing campaign - you were pretty damned serious about it.


That's the allegation you're being asked to prove. Linking a site does nothing to prove that, unless you can prove the provenance.

You allege the Following, long before you asked Zim any questions:
1) Goonswarm Directors created the following
a) La Maison
b) RL Prostitution/CP claims
c) websites that purported to be under your control, including Erotic Fan Fiction
d) administered a letter writing campaign
2) they did this with the intention to make your CSM campaign fail
3) they did this with the intention to make you lose your job

TBH, I've seen no evidence that they created anything. They may be culpable in continued hosting of La Maison (whoever created it)*, but that's all I've ever seen you prove.

*Hosting it's in poor taste if it's without any provenance (and I haven't really looked for any).

PS: While I grant that someone else brought up La Maison, you are the only one who I've ever seen bring up references to RL prostitution/cp in any thread, and you did bring up (for no apparent reason, this purported GSF hatred of you) before that.


All it would take to settle this horrible affair, would be for mittens to issue a statement saying that the goons have never had anything to do with this issue in any way shape or form.

Not going to happen is it.


Because he understands where the burden of proof lies (Hint: It's with the Accuser).

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Shawnm339
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Fraternity.
#274 - 2012-07-06 07:45:11 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
You're the accuser, provide proof.


I'm asking you a question (its not a complicated one) answer it or not, public opinion will decide how credible you end up looking.

Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?


At this stage failing to answer and flailing madly with evasions just makes you look like you have something to hide or be guilty about. Just come clean, be honest and answer the question.


I think public opinion at this point has got bored and is now reading another thread.......
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#275 - 2012-07-06 08:09:23 UTC
Shawnm339 wrote:
I think public opinion at this point has got bored and is now reading another thread.......[/quote]
What else is there to do when we blob SoCo so much they dock in a hurry.

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Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#276 - 2012-07-06 13:47:44 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
wrote:
Pipa Porto There you go, you've been asked by someone's main.


Well he (in particular) does need to answer the question I asked him first of course. I'm hardly likely to pay him the respect of giving him an answer while he's still dodging and wriggling the question I asked him first am I ?


You mean this post? (snipped)


Well obviously not, it was the one I actually linked
Here I'll underline it for you

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Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#277 - 2012-07-06 13:49:33 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
wrote:
Pipa Porto There you go, you've been asked by someone's main.


Well he (in particular) does need to answer the question I asked him first of course. I'm hardly likely to pay him the respect of giving him an answer while he's still dodging and wriggling the question I asked him first am I ?


You mean this post? (snipped)


Well obviously not, it was the one I actually linked
Here I'll underline it for you



Posting in a Jade Constantine thread

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Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#278 - 2012-07-06 13:57:02 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:

All it would take to settle this horrible affair, would be for mittens to issue a statement saying that the goons have never had anything to do with this issue in any way shape or form.
Not going to happen is it.



Hardly likely when Mittani is still knuckle-posting tweets like this one is it?

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#279 - 2012-07-06 14:20:59 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
All it would take to settle this horrible affair, would be for mittens to issue a statement saying that the goons have never had anything to do with this issue in any way shape or form.

Actually, no, we don't have to do squat, because what Jade has come up with hasn't proven anything. He hasn't come up with any proof that gsf directors fabricated any websites, administered a letter writing campaign, fabricated websites purporting to be under jade's control (including erotic fan fiction), or even made any claims of RL prostitution, child pornography, child-sex abuse or being a pedo (or whatever it is he'll invent next). And the one thing he has come up with, which is on what can only be described as a severely shady source of questionable reliability, makes absolutely no allegations to any of these things, so god knows why he insists on repeatedly linking it and claiming it's proof that he has been accused of these things.

He has also made allegations that we've linked to sites which claim these things, I've yet to see any evidence of that whatsoever, on any count, despite making specific requests that he provide said evidence. In fact, the only one who keeps on saying he's been accused of any of these things, is jade himself, while linking to said shady site of questionable reliability, which is something he does at any opportunity he can get to make sure everybody knows he thinks he's been accused of these things.

Jade Constantine wrote:
Hardly likely when Mittani is still knuckle-posting tweets like this one is it?

I'm seeing absolutely no reference to RL prostitution, child pornography, child-sex abuse or being a pedo there.

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RIP Vile Rat

Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#280 - 2012-07-06 14:24:18 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Always post with main.

Whats the point of pissing people off if they don't know who pissed them off?


Internet trolling; you fail at it.