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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-07-05 19:15:46 UTC
um everything gets old after a while, I haven't played eve in 3-4 years, after 4 years i was like FFFFFFF the great wild lands not even real nullsec.

But now I'm back to play again

give eve a rest playing the same game for 9 year, you'll go crazy

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Not Amused Responsible
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-07-05 19:28:23 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Screenlag wrote:
Get me dust for pc, and I'd play it. And it's not because Eve is too hard or demanding for me, just because I like diversity in the games I play.


This tbh, this !

i would stop playing some random FPS from random editor only good to play at first hours after ptach, day after is more about 80% aimboters



I’m not sure if Dust suffers from aimboters or if Dust on PC will just increase the chances of them, but I look forward to My Eve character working with the player base in Dust, currently my character is stuck in 5vn-b7 stain region and I can wait to explore the rest of the Eve universe.
Kunming
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2012-07-05 19:32:23 UTC
I have been killed a hundred times, yet here I am, for we are the gods to rule the sky!
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#44 - 2012-07-05 19:37:01 UTC
You think politics in EVE are bad. Just wait till Dust battles matter in Null sec. Then you'll miss pleasant EVE politics.
Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2012-07-05 20:03:02 UTC
In before some bias comment on FPS on PC vs. FPS on console.
Frank Truck
ACME Mineral and Gas
#46 - 2012-07-05 20:06:22 UTC
Sarton Wells wrote:
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
I wouldn't be playing dust if i was pissed and being killed Roll


Is dying with no penalty really dying?


Is dying with 100bill in the bank really a penalty?
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-07-05 20:36:02 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
The penalty is that it goes on your profil, as dust charaters are mercs, stats matter, after all you would hire a merc to take out a PI with huge losses and besides its less politics! thats got to be good news.

Wtf are you talking about?

This guy has no idea what he's talking about.




Well i guess we all should listen to you then? as your an expert, how oftern do you play Dust?, i was just saying to my glove puppet the other day, Eve goons would have a great prespetive on the new Dust Fps, so do you know what the Dust team are working on, because a bit of inside information could help me develop in the game Smile

Yes I do, no I won't, the DNA is still in effect.

Needless to say that eve is as harsh as you choose to make it. I can fit several dozen rifters, undock, get blown up, hop into another already fit rifter and repeat the cycle. The entire time I'm making enough ISK to refit another several dozen rifters.

I can also spent most of what I have fitting a T2 BC, undock, get blown up and not afford to fly anything but an ibis with civ fits.

Politics is what you make of it. If you choose to play in hi sec, not fighting over sov, or getting involved in the political landscape of eve then you don't have to. Dust will be no different.

Your assessment about dust was way off.


Not Amused Responsible
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-07-05 20:50:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Not Amused Responsible
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
The penalty is that it goes on your profil, as dust charaters are mercs, stats matter, after all you would hire a merc to take out a PI with huge losses and besides its less politics! thats got to be good news.

Wtf are you talking about?

This guy has no idea what he's talking about.




Well i guess we all should listen to you then? as your an expert, how oftern do you play Dust?, i was just saying to my glove puppet the other day, Eve goons would have a great prespetive on the new Dust Fps, so do you know what the Dust team are working on, because a bit of inside information could help me develop in the game Smile

Yes I do, no I won't, the DNA is still in effect.

Needless to say that eve is as harsh as you choose to make it. I can fit several dozen rifters, undock, get blown up, hop into another already fit rifter and repeat the cycle. The entire time I'm making enough ISK to refit another several dozen rifters.

I can also spent most of what I have fitting a T2 BC, undock, get blown up and not afford to fly anything but an ibis with civ fits.

Politics is what you make of it. If you choose to play in hi sec, not fighting over sov, or getting involved in the political landscape of eve then you don't have to. Dust will be no different.

Your assessment about dust was way off.





Not sure why you make such large assumptions, but if you can’t afford to live in null maybe you should be looking more closely at yourself rather than preaching dross to me, I played Eve just as hardcore as anyone else, why should you be an exception, your comments aren’t constructive and clearly you feel a superiority complex, just proving your negative attitude, but hey no hard feelings.
Ryoken McKeon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-07-05 20:59:18 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
I haven’t played EVE very much over the last 5 months, I have lost interest in all the politics and poorly balanced game mechanics, however I have had a great time playing Dust, it’s so easy to form squads, characters are less defined by your own personality and getting killed is less problematic, its great shooting people in the head instead of a pod, it’s made me think than EVE online is full of old time gamers who hide behind politics and manipulating game mechanics, perhaps you could say the 9 year old game is getting too long in the tooth even with updates, just a bunch of old farts hanging on to what they believe is rightly theirs, let’s face it, space is unlimited in size and potential species, even uncharted with no A-Z guide, EVE’s nothing like that!, more a Facebook with generic mechanics.




I just don't understand what motivates some people to post their thoughts. How many Earth-like planets do you think there are in the universe? Do you think that is the only rare, valuable resource in 'space' ?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#50 - 2012-07-05 21:16:25 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
only trouble is the server keeps going down

You mean the fact they're only letting people play from thursday downtime till monday downtime, or are you having net problems that make you think the serves are down?


Not Amused Responsible wrote:
it was a surprise though to discover that none of the current Eve ships are currently being used


Not that surprising that the Eve Ships aren't in Dust.

You do know that a Rifter is the size of a 747, don't you? Even Eve /Drones/ have a 5 meter wingspan.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Not Amused Responsible
Doomheim
#51 - 2012-07-05 21:17:38 UTC
Ryoken McKeon wrote:
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
I haven’t played EVE very much over the last 5 months, I have lost interest in all the politics and poorly balanced game mechanics, however I have had a great time playing Dust, it’s so easy to form squads, characters are less defined by your own personality and getting killed is less problematic, its great shooting people in the head instead of a pod, it’s made me think than EVE online is full of old time gamers who hide behind politics and manipulating game mechanics, perhaps you could say the 9 year old game is getting too long in the tooth even with updates, just a bunch of old farts hanging on to what they believe is rightly theirs, let’s face it, space is unlimited in size and potential species, even uncharted with no A-Z guide, EVE’s nothing like that!, more a Facebook with generic mechanics.




I just don't understand what motivates some people to post their thoughts. How many Earth-like planets do you think there are in the universe? Do you think that is the only rare, valuable resource in 'space' ?



I have know idea how many earth like planets there are, but with some imagination a universe could be boundless in variation, with alien resources, and new places to explore for all eternity, Eve has lost what they set out to accomplish in the beginning, just a thought.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#52 - 2012-07-05 21:20:08 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
[

Not Amused Responsible wrote:
it was a surprise though to discover that none of the current Eve ships are currently being used


Not that surprising that the Eve Ships aren't in Dust.

You do know that a Rifter is the size of a 747, don't you? Even Eve /Drones/ have a 5 meter wingspan.

It would be awesome to fly the Rifter into a Dust battle... they would freak...
Not Amused Responsible
Doomheim
#53 - 2012-07-05 21:21:33 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
only trouble is the server keeps going down

You mean the fact they're only letting people play from thursday downtime till monday downtime, or are you having net problems that make you think the serves are down?


Not Amused Responsible wrote:
it was a surprise though to discover that none of the current Eve ships are currently being used


Not that surprising that the Eve Ships aren't in Dust.

You do know that a Rifter is the size of a 747, don't you? Even Eve /Drones/ have a 5 meter wingspan.




Not sure about their down time only that it tells me its starts at 11 for 30 mins, maybe my WiFi on the Ps3 is rubbish, 747 rifter can't see that working at all.
Not Amused Responsible
Doomheim
#54 - 2012-07-05 21:22:44 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
[

Not Amused Responsible wrote:
it was a surprise though to discover that none of the current Eve ships are currently being used


Not that surprising that the Eve Ships aren't in Dust.

You do know that a Rifter is the size of a 747, don't you? Even Eve /Drones/ have a 5 meter wingspan.

It would be awesome to fly the Rifter into a Dust battle... they would freak...



I would applaud
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-07-05 22:14:40 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:




Not sure why you make such large assumptions, but if you can’t afford to live in null maybe you should be looking more closely at yourself rather than preaching dross to me, I played Eve just as hardcore as anyone else, why should you be an exception, your comments aren’t constructive and clearly you feel a superiority complex, just proving your negative attitude, but hey no hard feelings.

reading comprehension is clealy not your strong suit.

Not Amused Responsible
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-07-05 22:44:48 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Not Amused Responsible wrote:




Not sure why you make such large assumptions, but if you can’t afford to live in null maybe you should be looking more closely at yourself rather than preaching dross to me, I played Eve just as hardcore as anyone else, why should you be an exception, your comments aren’t constructive and clearly you feel a superiority complex, just proving your negative attitude, but hey no hard feelings.

reading comprehension is clealy not your strong suit.




Eve is clearly not yours, fly safe 0/
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-07-05 23:06:50 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
[

Not Amused Responsible wrote:
it was a surprise though to discover that none of the current Eve ships are currently being used


Not that surprising that the Eve Ships aren't in Dust.

You do know that a Rifter is the size of a 747, don't you? Even Eve /Drones/ have a 5 meter wingspan.

It would be awesome to fly the Rifter into a Dust battle... they would freak...



I would applaud


You know what.... those big ships that come over the battle field, those are most likely a little bigger than a rifter. Not much though. But maybe in some rare curcum stances they could put frigates into the environment art? Like you fight in a hanger full of rifters and you can hide around them and shoot each other.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Ryoken McKeon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-07-06 00:54:58 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
Ryoken McKeon wrote:
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
I haven’t played EVE very much over the last 5 months, I have lost interest in all the politics and poorly balanced game mechanics, however I have had a great time playing Dust, it’s so easy to form squads, characters are less defined by your own personality and getting killed is less problematic, its great shooting people in the head instead of a pod, it’s made me think than EVE online is full of old time gamers who hide behind politics and manipulating game mechanics, perhaps you could say the 9 year old game is getting too long in the tooth even with updates, just a bunch of old farts hanging on to what they believe is rightly theirs, let’s face it, space is unlimited in size and potential species, even uncharted with no A-Z guide, EVE’s nothing like that!, more a Facebook with generic mechanics.




I just don't understand what motivates some people to post their thoughts. How many Earth-like planets do you think there are in the universe? Do you think that is the only rare, valuable resource in 'space' ?



I have know idea how many earth like planets there are, but with some imagination a universe could be boundless in variation, with alien resources, and new places to explore for all eternity, Eve has lost what they set out to accomplish in the beginning, just a thought.



You are saying the game should be more about exploration than fighting over scare resources. That's fair enough, but I disagree.
Ahri Jhan
Shadowkrieg
#59 - 2012-07-06 02:37:11 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:

I have know idea how many earth like planets there are, but with some imagination a universe could be boundless in variation, with alien resources, and new places to explore for all eternity, Eve has lost what they set out to accomplish in the beginning, just a thought.


hmmm....I actually like what your saying here and its something I've been thinking about as well.

Your saying what if dust had a free-roam planet exploration network sandbox where you could just hunt hostiles(wildlife, rouge drones) while finding minerals, artifacts or capturing abandoned mining depots or build different types of facilities for ISK, and what if there were opposing corp members in dust scouting on the same planet hunting you as well bringing tanks and equipment to the field. Heck, maybe even a support abaddon from above if you have friendlies awake in Eve.

Maybe dust players could receive notifications that their ground assets they captured or built was captured and if action wasn't taken, it could be destroyed or switched to the opposers.

This is starting to look like the expansions for dust can have endless possibilities Big smile. It actually could be interesting just as long as its not as boring as the PVE in Eve.

But there are other issues that go along with this such as how dust will transfer to PS4 in the future as well as more attention being taken away from Eve....again. Its going to take lots of time to implement so I think they should just stick to what they have for now at least. I'd rather see an Eve expansion of nullsec and more support ships (light carriers!! Twisted) than dust for now. Blink

~AJ~
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