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Bored of eve yet never tried pvp

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Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#21 - 2012-07-03 17:17:09 UTC
Mer88 wrote:
Cameron Cahill wrote:


L4s are terrible, I make 50 mill ticks in bounties (150 an hour) and i don't loot/salvage. Plex done in 3 hours.


Can you explain what you do ? and what ships you need to do it? is that solo or fleet activity?


I use a Vindicator to wantonly murder defenseless Guristas.
Mer88
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-07-03 17:17:14 UTC
Andoria Thara wrote:
Mer88 wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
Mer88 wrote:
Cameron Cahill wrote:
Join a decent corp/alliance get some pvp.

You're first step though:
Leave Hi-sec


i always wanted to leave but what is there to do in low sec besides getting kill or killing people? i dont think doing l4 in lowsec is a good idea.


Why isn't a good idea to do lvl 4's in low sec? You don't like more isk? You are behind the 'safety' of acceleration gates. As long as you watch d-scan for probes you get time to get out if someone is looking for you.



im very lazy when it comes to missioning l4. I only do enough to pay for plex each month. i play like 1 to 2 hours a day if i average it out. I guess that isnt too bad i guess.

Also, the thing about L4 is i do them for bounty , loot and salvage. I dont even consider LP rewards at all. I do my l4s very close to trading hub RENS , so i can sell loots and salvage at good price. If i go to low sec for l4. not only there is increase risk of ganks, but i also will have trouble moving loots to sell in a cargo ship once in a while.


Why are you still talking about doing level 4s? I thought you were bored with them? Stop thinking about going places just to do level 4s and do something else for crying out loud.


i do it for a plex a month. That is the only reason i still play because this game isnt about grinding. your character skill up over time. So as long as i have subscribtion, i will be more powerful over time. i hope with better skills , i will be able to go low or null sec .
Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#23 - 2012-07-03 17:17:19 UTC
Quote:
Ignore this goonpilot. The most entertaining PVP is to be found either in highsec or wormhole space. Lowsec - you'll get gatecamped to hell. Nullsec - same, but you also get blobbed by 500 people flying titans.


Dead wrong. Almost everything I do is in lowsec these days. Yeah I'm usually fighting larger numbers, but I do FW so I use plex entrances to split my enemies up, or fly fast skirmish ships so I can try for 1v2 or 1v3 fights and disengage if things look grim.

Actually, to be completely honest I don't understand why lowsec is such a dead zone. The money out there is better than highsec, and the risks are quite manageable if you have a shred of situational awareness and know how to abuse cloak MWD warps to get around. I do all my PvP and PvE in lowsec, with the exception of trading which I dabble in on occassion, but I'm terribad at that so it barely counts.

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Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2012-07-03 17:20:26 UTC
Mer88 wrote:


i do it for a plex a month. That is the only reason i still play because this game isnt about grinding. your character skill up over time. So as long as i have subscribtion, i will be more powerful over time. i hope with better skills , i will be able to go low or null sec .


EVERYONE can come to null and be usefull, we have day old newbies in rifters in every fleet.
Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#25 - 2012-07-03 17:20:35 UTC
Mer88 wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Cameron Cahill wrote:
Join a decent corp/alliance get some pvp.

You're first step though:
Leave Hi-sec


Ignore this goonpilot. The most entertaining PVP is to be found either in highsec or wormhole space. Lowsec - you'll get gatecamped to hell. Nullsec - same, but you also get blobbed by 500 people flying titans.


Hopefully this is a troll.

Highsec "PvP" is a joke.
Lowsec PvP is decent, but stale and predictable.
Null and WH is where its at. It is quite easy to avoid a fleet.


another thing i like to say about pvp in general is there is no point to pvp except for the sake of pvp. The kind of pvp that i am interested in is real battles where your whole alliance can take over stations or defending your stations from attackers. Those really interest me.


sorry for doublepost, but I wanted to address this quickly. Lowsec isn't for you then, although it *can* serve as a training area for small scale combat. You learn a lot pretty quickly out there, but you don't want to linger there. The real place for you is probably w-space. Null combat is *extremely* meaningful, but from what I've heard all the CTAs and blobbing does make it feel that your part in the conflict is very small. W-space combat on the other hand is intense. It's you against your neighbors, and a single kill can yield you half a billion isk against many w-space corps. The money incentives are high, and you will often need to defend your space.

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Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2012-07-03 17:21:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Cameron Cahill
Garresh wrote:
situational awareness.


Hi sec dudes don't seem to understand this.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#27 - 2012-07-03 17:21:40 UTC
Garresh wrote:
Quote:
Ignore this goonpilot. The most entertaining PVP is to be found either in highsec or wormhole space. Lowsec - you'll get gatecamped to hell. Nullsec - same, but you also get blobbed by 500 people flying titans.


Dead wrong. Almost everything I do is in lowsec these days. Yeah I'm usually fighting larger numbers, but I do FW so I use plex entrances to split my enemies up, or fly fast skirmish ships so I can try for 1v2 or 1v3 fights and disengage if things look grim.

Actually, to be completely honest I don't understand why lowsec is such a dead zone. The money out there is better than highsec, and the risks are quite manageable if you have a shred of situational awareness and know how to abuse cloak MWD warps to get around. I do all my PvP and PvE in lowsec, with the exception of trading which I dabble in on occassion, but I'm terribad at that so it barely counts.


Mostly because Nullsec is exactly that, with much better rewards.
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#28 - 2012-07-03 17:23:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Cameron Cahill
Garresh wrote:
Mer88 wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Cameron Cahill wrote:
Join a decent corp/alliance get some pvp.

You're first step though:
Leave Hi-sec


Ignore this goonpilot. The most entertaining PVP is to be found either in highsec or wormhole space. Lowsec - you'll get gatecamped to hell. Nullsec - same, but you also get blobbed by 500 people flying titans.


Hopefully this is a troll.

Highsec "PvP" is a joke.
Lowsec PvP is decent, but stale and predictable.
Null and WH is where its at. It is quite easy to avoid a fleet.


another thing i like to say about pvp in general is there is no point to pvp except for the sake of pvp. The kind of pvp that i am interested in is real battles where your whole alliance can take over stations or defending your stations from attackers. Those really interest me.


sorry for doublepost, but I wanted to address this quickly. Lowsec isn't for you then, although it *can* serve as a training area for small scale combat. You learn a lot pretty quickly out there, but you don't want to linger there. The real place for you is probably w-space. Null combat is *extremely* meaningful, but from what I've heard all the CTAs and blobbing does make it feel that your part in the conflict is very small. W-space combat on the other hand is intense. It's you against your neighbors, and a single kill can yield you half a billion isk against many w-space corps. The money incentives are high, and you will often need to defend your space.


http://stonekite.net/images/252.jpg
An old poster that explains why everyone is usefull in 00.

Also what CTAs? ;P
Asp IV
Apex Abyss
#29 - 2012-07-03 18:22:39 UTC
EvE is game about space ships, and the tactics, weapon systems you use when flying in space. And to OUTSMART/GANK/BLOB/ ABUSE your way to victory with linked alts, falcons etc and dual boxing in pew pew. But all this is only scratching on the surface when it comes shooting other pilots in space.

Also the deceivingly simple task of chosing modules for your ship to fulfill a role or be able to pull off a special tactic .

The purpose of EvE is to do whatever it takes to keep you in space ships.


There is also the market if you are the spreadsheets guy. In the market everything is pvp.


Then we have the meta game (trollfest advanced covert activity, infiltration and spying and outright Social engineering Real time on Vent, TS. you decide. However you will only see it if you start interacting with real people not red Xs and sitting in station spinning your ship or changing hardeners for your mission.


this game is indeed very boring if you get stuck in the L4-->buy plex loop.


Be creative. Be BOLD pilot and stay Bold.
SegaPhoenix
Chicks on Speed
Weapons Of Mass Production.
#30 - 2012-07-03 18:26:21 UTC
In EVE you are liable for your own content.

Screenlag
Armaggedon Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#31 - 2012-07-03 19:43:25 UTC
for about one year I did missioning only. I then joined a wormhole corp, got a taste for pvp and eve has only gotten more fun since that. Could not stress enough how important pvp is to your overall eve experience
Fenella
Dangermouse Inc.
#32 - 2012-07-03 20:34:41 UTC
If you want to try something new, try RedVBlue (rvbeve.com).

Even though I just joined I can honestly say it is THE most fun I have had in my time in EVE, and I've done the whole 0.0 alliance borecamp/blob.

It's drama free and the FC's are first rate at organising even and hugely entertaining fights.
Harold Tuphlos
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-07-03 20:56:51 UTC
Mer88 wrote:


another thing i like to say about pvp in general is there is no point to pvp except for the sake of pvp. The kind of pvp that i am interested in is real battles where your whole alliance can take over stations or defending your stations from attackers. Those really interest me.


Get out of hisec now. This sov warfare you are talking about, so find a sov holding nullsec alliance to join. At this point, you can't claim you need better skillpoints, since you can be useful if all you can fly is a noobship with a point on it.

Which alliance/corp you choose is really up to you, but some thing you would want to look at are: ship replacement/reimbursement (do they do it, and to what extent), do they actively fight for sov ( hi AAA), joining requirements ( please don't try getting into goons without an SA account), what timezone are they (being US and flying with russians could make for alot of bad timers), and overall character (if you hate goons, pretty much every cfc alliance is out.)

I would recommend looking at cfc corps, 99% corps in particular but its up to you and where you feel you will fit in the best.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2012-07-03 21:28:19 UTC
Join Red vs Blue.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-07-03 22:02:58 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Join Red vs Blue.


This is the real answer.

Buy yourself 100 fitted frigates and put your application in.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Kievan Arakyd
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-07-03 22:52:25 UTC
Get out of highsec. Highsec is a cesspool for whiners and themepark players. Move to 0.0 and write your own story.

Got my Dust514 key...

Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#37 - 2012-07-03 22:57:17 UTC
How can you be bored if you never tried PvP? Seriously, until you've done that, you can't say you are bored. If Eve has one thing right, it's the PvP mechanics. Go blow up some ships, yours or theirs. It is far from boring, at least in the beginning.

John Hancock

Kratisto
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-07-03 23:07:09 UTC
My advice is simple: Go to the corp recruitment forum, and find a corporation that seems chill. All corps need good, active members; they are an asset you cannot put a price on.

Even if youre not any good at anything right now, you can always learn. If you show up in fleets, as long as you arent actively hindering the gang youll be just fine. If you can fly a logi, then you will most likely be accepted into many corps.

What to look for in a corp to make sure its good? usually 50-100 people, hopefully in your case already situated in 0.0 somewhere. People who play in the same tz as you. Mind, when you pvp assume the ship you are flying is already dead; if you can just see how many killmails you can get, or ships you can save, before it happens, then you have the right mindset.


Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
#39 - 2012-07-03 23:50:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Gibbo3771
Tbh there is no point in even remotely trying to help the OP.

People like the OP are the reason most of eve still fits 3 overdrives and 2 polycarbons with a sebo to there ceptors, because they have no free thinking and constantly need to be told what to aim for, where to go and what to do. Like right now hes asking us what he can do and saying there is no PvP. There is plenty to do PvE wise besides missions and mining, scan lowsec/nullsec plexes and go run them, feel the pleasure of knowing if you are not careful you die. PvP is everywhere, its not hard to find.

Just unsub, you are a lost, useless and risk adverse carebear that will never change.
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-07-03 23:54:08 UTC
Fenella wrote:
If you want to try something new, try RedVBlue (rvbeve.com).

Even though I just joined I can honestly say it is THE most fun I have had in my time in EVE, and I've done the whole 0.0 alliance borecamp/blob.

It's drama free and the FC's are first rate at organising even and hugely entertaining fights.


It really irks me when people lump all of Nul-sec together. There is major differences in SOV-nul and NPC-nul. Much less blobbing gets done in NPC nul. The biggest fleet I have seen in NPC nul in the last 6months has been like 40, and that was a rarity. Most fleets are under 20 people, many fleets have no logi, and there are tons of 1-6 man gangs running around. NPC-nul is hardly a borecamp blobfest. NPC nul is also my favorite place to solo PvP. Low-sec is cool too but you got to be very careful of gate guns, and I don't like letting the enemy take the first shot. Solo PvP often times involves a lot of gatecrashing to split enemy gangs, so many of your fights happen near the gate.
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