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Framerate drops WARNING: Latest Adobe Flash Player Version Buggy

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gobbybobby
Negative-Impact
#21 - 2012-07-01 23:04:29 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Thurken wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
EVE uses flash?


IF true, that would be a bigger security issue than saying your password on twitter.


EVE does not use flash. Flash may mess with GFX rendering somehow.
On adobes page they say Mozilla browser user have trouble . Don't know if it is realated.


Firefox user here, no problem with Adobe Flash (however always use security plug ins)



FF user here.

massive frame rate drop, from 60 to 10 when Running Firefox/ watching youtube videos (Not full screen) on second monitor since the adobe patch.
Rashmika Clavain
Revelation Space
#22 - 2012-07-01 23:05:34 UTC
Flash Update .257 caused huge issues with Firefox. Flas .262 has allegedly made thingsbetter.

I had huge issues trying to get my virtual Firefox package working when running with a bundled Flash .257 Evil

Mozilla blame Adobe, and vice versa... :shrug:
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-07-01 23:08:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucy Ferrr
Speaking of flash, when is the in game browser going to get flash support? I hate having to alt-tab out of Eve to watch my p*rn.... ahem I mean youtube videos.

Really we can't use the abbreviated word for pornography? Why does that trigger the censor?
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#24 - 2012-07-01 23:12:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
Speaking of flash, when is the in game browser going to get flash support?

So, when Flash causes problems for Eve and other programs that are completely unassociated with it, and it completely fucks with Firefox (or other browsers) scrolling and other rendering.

... and you want to introduce it into the Eve browser, a very rudimentary Chromium implementation which is rendered in a hacked-together window system on top of a 3D environment?

I do not follow at all.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#25 - 2012-07-01 23:17:14 UTC
…then again, it's already possible to just uninstall flash and not suffer all that much for it.
Shahirahh Orgasana
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-07-01 23:44:02 UTC
Adobe is already depreciating the use of Flash on mobile systems (Android phones and tablets). They won't support Flash Player on the latest version of Android (4.1/ICS). Starting in August, you won't even be able to download Flash Player from the Google play market unless your device already has it installed.

Given an increasing push towards the use of HTML 5, how much longer before Flash is dead on the desktop as well?
Tobey Darkness
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-07-02 14:20:46 UTC
I have a feeling that Mozilla and Adobe are at war or something for several weeks now. And every new patch makes it even worse.

And it's not only Mozilla, my Samsung Android Phone hates Flash 11 from the frst day. Flash 10 is working fine though.

But what is the alternative solution for watching YouTube on your Phone or in your Browser?

Do you know what's really dumbing down eve? Graphics! If you really want a hardcoregame with a learning curve that even beats eve: Try bay12games.com/dwarves
hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-07-02 14:29:30 UTC
I was playing a game last night that had erm... had tanks in a world, and my nvidea drivers failed. Would it be related or another issue

Pog mo thoin

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#29 - 2012-07-02 14:29:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
Tobey Darkness wrote:
I have a feeling that Mozilla and Adobe are at war or something for several weeks now. And every new patch makes it even worse.

And it's not only Mozilla, my Samsung Android Phone hates Flash 11 from the frst day. Flash 10 is working fine though.

But what is the alternative solution for watching YouTube on your Phone or in your Browser?

Google is working on pushing out an HTML5 version of YouTube. No Flash involved there. You can turn it on for whatever videos you can here: http://youtube.com/html5

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CCP Paradox
#30 - 2012-07-02 15:17:00 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Tobey Darkness wrote:
I have a feeling that Mozilla and Adobe are at war or something for several weeks now. And every new patch makes it even worse.

And it's not only Mozilla, my Samsung Android Phone hates Flash 11 from the frst day. Flash 10 is working fine though.

But what is the alternative solution for watching YouTube on your Phone or in your Browser?

Google is working on pushing out an HTML5 version of YouTube. No Flash involved there. You can turn it on for whatever videos you can here: http://youtube.com/html5


As Petrus said, I signed up to the HTML5 version of Youtube. My laptop thanks me greatly by giving me extra battery life. If you have problems with watching videos on youtube with flash, I would highly recommend giving the HTML5 beta a go.

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Katja Faith
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-07-02 15:30:28 UTC
Pyramid Scheme wrote:
and this is why flash needs to die already.


This. +100...
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-07-02 15:33:00 UTC
Project X5 wrote:
that's why turtles like insects

This post appears, on the surface, to be completely off-topic, therefore please take this as information that future off-topic posts may result in either editing or further actions.

ISD Tyrozan


They're starting it again. Give me plenty of warning next time we're going to protest, k?

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#33 - 2012-07-02 15:52:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
Shahirahh Orgasana wrote:
Adobe is already depreciating the use of Flash on mobile systems (Android phones and tablets). They won't support Flash Player on the latest version of Android (4.1/ICS). Starting in August, you won't even be able to download Flash Player from the Google play market unless your device already has it installed.

Given an increasing push towards the use of HTML 5, how much longer before Flash is dead on the desktop as well?


flash has the benefit of being cross platform

html5 video sounds really great until you realize that you need a different video and audio format for each of the browsers on the market.

so that 1 SWF file suddenly becomes 3-4 different files you need to maintain so everyone can see the same thing on top of making your site code detect browsers and installed codecs (provided the paranoid user doesn't prevent you from detecting their info)

w3 screwed the pooch not enforcing a format standard and letting the browsers define the codecs
VanDam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-07-02 16:09:02 UTC
Project X5 wrote:
that's why turtles like insects

This post appears, on the surface, to be completely off-topic, therefore please take this as information that future off-topic posts may result in either editing or further actions.

ISD Tyrozan


I lol'd. Hard.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#35 - 2012-07-02 16:09:57 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Tobey Darkness wrote:
I have a feeling that Mozilla and Adobe are at war or something for several weeks now. And every new patch makes it even worse.

And it's not only Mozilla, my Samsung Android Phone hates Flash 11 from the frst day. Flash 10 is working fine though.

But what is the alternative solution for watching YouTube on your Phone or in your Browser?

Google is working on pushing out an HTML5 version of YouTube. No Flash involved there. You can turn it on for whatever videos you can here: http://youtube.com/html5


As Petrus said, I signed up to the HTML5 version of Youtube. My laptop thanks me greatly by giving me extra battery life. If you have problems with watching videos on youtube with flash, I would highly recommend giving the HTML5 beta a go.


there is a small problem with HTML5 on firefox... their HTML5 video implementation is crap and sucks CPU down big time. I cannot watch HD videos on my (admittedly older Core 2 Duo T6500) laptop in HTML5 mode

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Thelron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-07-02 17:50:49 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Shahirahh Orgasana wrote:
Adobe is already depreciating the use of Flash on mobile systems (Android phones and tablets). They won't support Flash Player on the latest version of Android (4.1/ICS). Starting in August, you won't even be able to download Flash Player from the Google play market unless your device already has it installed.

Given an increasing push towards the use of HTML 5, how much longer before Flash is dead on the desktop as well?


flash has the benefit of being cross platform

html5 video sounds really great until you realize that you need a different video and audio format for each of the browsers on the market.

so that 1 SWF file suddenly becomes 3-4 different files you need to maintain so everyone can see the same thing on top of making your site code detect browsers and installed codecs (provided the paranoid user doesn't prevent you from detecting their info)

w3 screwed the pooch not enforcing a format standard and letting the browsers define the codecs


This, so much this. That and the fact that they *still* haven't actually managed to get an "official" version published, or addressed some of the issues with in-browser graphics at least to the point where it's a little harder to agree with of all people *microsoft's* stance against implementation...

Don't get me wrong, I hate Adobe as much as anyone else who has to sfuffer trying to use their crappy products, but right now there isn't a good alternative if you need a consistent presentation. At least, as long as you don't have to present for the iDrones.
Betrinna Cantis
#37 - 2012-07-02 18:12:45 UTC
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
I was playing a game last night that had erm... had tanks in a world, and my nvidea drivers failed. Would it be related or another issue

Red screen??

Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares.....
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#38 - 2012-07-02 18:41:16 UTC
Betrinna Cantis wrote:
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
I was playing a game last night that had erm... had tanks in a world, and my nvidea drivers failed. Would it be related or another issue

Red screen??

I do hate that red screen...

Flash has been a problem with FF for a while now, which is why I stopped using it (FF).

I might eventually uninstall Flash...
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