EVE New Citizens Q&A

I just got back to EVE after quite a long hiatus and I totally forgot about the hatred of people who prefer to play in Hi-sec. How did this get started and why is there such a hatred of people who have fun playing in hi-sec areas? Is it just a rampant trend of elitism?

Edit: This got answered. I thought "carebears" was a term for people who participated in hi-sec-only playing. I was unaware that the hatred was mostly directed at people who whined about getting ganked or murdered or whatever. I didn't post this to be insulted or to start a flame war (as some people think) and I thank the people who answered!

Because they are under the impression that they are tough guys by playing a video game with spaceships. That and what J'Poll said.

As J'Poll said above, it's the people that seem to think they should be as safe as possible while in high sec that are generating the negative responses. There are plenty in high sec who realise that it's safer but not completely safe there and can appreciate the conflict that is part of the game and get the point that their activities can have some impact on other part of the game, from simply selling a bit of mission loot to manufacturing tech 2 ships and so on.

This character has spent a fair amount of time in high sec but has ventured into low and null sec more over the years, high sec can become a bit dull for some people after a while and some of the restrictions that limit you aren't in effect in low or null. Some people seem to be happy staying in high sec for whatever reasons. That's up to them, their choice, but those that don't see the bigger picture and ask to have high sec made more safe don't realise that it the activities they do there still affect others in the game and there should be potential consequences to that.

"carebears" provide every ~h4rdc0re4lyfe~ wannabe (regardless of their individual quirks in playstyle) with a common antagonist of sorts. whenever they express their dislike of carebears, they reaffirm their own fragile little identities as super elite space murderers, it's p much identity through polarization "at least i'm not a carebear/miner/??"

Glad to be of help. Also - thanks for your kind words and wishes regarding AT10, but we were disqualified. You can look at the AT subforum for more details if you care, I don't want to derail your thread :)

fly reckless o7

It's their own fault for messing up the finals of AT9.

All I can say is Im very new, and even so I can appreciate how EVE is structured. Its not very user friendly early on and it shouldnt be. And I dont want to feel completely safe at all times. There needs to be some element of danger, and its great that it comes from REAL people. So if I lose out by being ganked or whatever, then I view that as my own fault for not being as cautious as I would be in any email scamming "give me your money" scheme.

Because honestly, at some point I want to be that guy who lures you out into deep space.....

Okay, the thread was going well until you posted. No one was arguing at all. I was just confused by the hatred people had for the hi-sec players. It is a completely different phenomena than I am used to. In the other MMOs I have played I have never seen people getting 'insulted' because they didn't participate in PvP. It was a legitimate question that people answered rather well. Everyone who posted seemed to get a long with each other and did so in a helpful, casual manner and you are right, I don't have a clue what people mean by "Carebear", hence why I asked in the most relevant forum (The forum for new people/returning players.)

You are the one trying to derail it and being insulting. It's not cool.

Because EVE's a "sandbox", but only as long as you're playing it their way.

If there were no carebears, there'd be no life-lacking wannabe pirates in low-sec killing people for fun. Go easy on them, they're too fragile to handle null-sec, and too economically challenged to make it in high-sec. Encourage them to seek counseling for their mental health problems.