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Advanced T3 hulls.
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Ja'thaal Deathbringer
The Directionally Challenged
#1 - 2012-07-02 01:43:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ja'thaal Deathbringer
Hey all.

Earlier today I was looking at my Legion and I got to thinking, "This would look great with a Carthum Conglomerate skin." This lead me to think further into the idea, advanced T3's would be an interesting addition to the game. I don't know if anyone else has come up with this sort of idea, if so, I apologize.

Anyway, these hulls would be a lot more expensive than the standard T3 hull, but would take the same subsystems, and would come with certain boosts to different aspects of the ship, dependent on the manufacturer of the hull.

For example;

Khanid Innovations Legion:

5% Reduction in module heat damage per level of Amarr Strategic Cruiser. (No change to the standard hull variant)

10% Bonus to Heavy and Heavy Assault missile velocity per level of Amarr Strategic Cruiser.

Viziam Legion:

5% Reduction in module heat damage per level of Amarr Strategic Cruiser. (No change to the standard hull variant)

10% Bonus to Medium Pulse Laser rate of fire per level of Amarr Strategic Cruiser.

Carthum Conglomerate Legion:

5% Reduction in module heat damage per level of Amarr Strategic Cruiser. (No change to the standard hull variant)

10% Bonus to Medium Pulse laser Damage per level of Amarr Strategic Cruiser.


Obviously this would be continued on for all the strategic cruisers and there could also be faction variants with their own bonuses as well. This is just an idea and I would just like some feedback on the concept to see what people think. Also, if a Dev or GM could take a look at the idea that would be great.

JD
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#2 - 2012-07-02 02:04:15 UTC
a. Makes no sense in the game and would be OP with those bonuses you listed (probably with any bonuses).
b. Just wait for ship skins to come out and you can have whatever colors you want.
Ja'thaal Deathbringer
The Directionally Challenged
#3 - 2012-07-02 02:12:19 UTC
Like I said, it was a concept, the bonuses can be modified to suit the ship. Regardless, thanks for your feedback.
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-02 02:31:32 UTC
Nonononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononono, we dont need T4 hulls ever.
Covert Kitty
SRS Industries
#5 - 2012-07-02 02:45:23 UTC
Much more likely that t3's get needed than this. Last thing we need is more t3
Ja'thaal Deathbringer
The Directionally Challenged
#6 - 2012-07-02 02:56:53 UTC
I'm talking about a ship that is more "Get what you pay for, plus a little more pretty." Than regular T3's, not T4 hulls.
tankus2
HeartVenom Inc.
#7 - 2012-07-02 05:57:06 UTC
how about 'no' and as mxzf pointed out just wait until CCP allows you to change your ship's paintjob. I'm sure they'll have a dozen+ presets for each type of ship just to make you feel extra special without forcing you to spend hours repainting and matching it just right with existing vessels.

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L4ST
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-07-02 08:04:09 UTC
T3s are extremely customizable, other ships arent. Why customize those T3s even more before adding more variety to "normal" ships without dozens of subsystems, extreme imbaness in solo and the possibility to fulfill pretty much ANY subcap role?
Kadeyoo
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-07-02 10:36:00 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dosnix
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I´ve deleted off-topic content ;)

Kind Regards
ISD Dosnix
Pisov viet
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2012-07-02 12:45:24 UTC
Oh, looks fun, can I try too?
Lai Dai Tengu:
+10% kinetic missile damage per level
+5 shield resist per level.

My current tengu dont have nearly enough damage and tank for my taste, really.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#11 - 2012-07-02 14:29:50 UTC
Faction T2s are alliance tournament prizes and sell for billions.

What would your faction T3s be?

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Danel Tosh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-07-02 16:13:44 UTC
Perhaps with less ridiculus bonuses I would support this. maybe instead of two bonuses for each hull there sould be only one.

for example the Khanid inovations Hull could have a 10% bonus to HAM missile velocity per level of ammar strategic crusier so it has better range than its non faction counterpart.

Or perhaps faction T3 hulls should support other things like logistic and exploration activities instead of combat.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#13 - 2012-07-02 17:15:58 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Faction T2s are alliance tournament prizes and sell for tens of billions.

What would your faction T3s be?


FTFY
Ja'thaal Deathbringer
The Directionally Challenged
#14 - 2012-07-04 12:16:36 UTC
Actually, the State Issue Raven etc are extremely rare ships, I'm talking about Faction Issue, Navy Issue ships or Manufacturer issue ships, not incredibly rare things that cost tens or hundreds of billions of isk.
Ja'thaal Deathbringer
The Directionally Challenged
#15 - 2012-07-04 12:32:00 UTC
Danel Tosh wrote:
Perhaps with less ridiculous bonuses I would support this. maybe instead of two bonuses for each hull there should be only one.

for example the Khanid innovations Hull could have a 10% bonus to HAM missile velocity per level of ammar strategic crusier so it has better range than its non faction counterpart.

Or perhaps faction T3 hulls should support other things like logistic and exploration activities instead of combat.


Like I said, it was only a concept and was only meant to be an interesting thought. As to the bonus you posted, what about a bonus to HAM and Heavy Missile velocity, so it doesn't limit you to one weapon type to get the bonus. But it would support a specific subsystem set.
Ja'thaal Deathbringer
The Directionally Challenged
#16 - 2012-07-04 13:04:24 UTC
For those of you who are paying attention, I've lowered the bonuses of the above mentioned manufacturer edition Legion hulls to 1 bonus aside from the standard bonus. That makes them far less outlandish as ships and means that they aren't so Overpowered. Hopefully this makes it less of a bad idea.
Photon Ceray
Palmyra Universal Enterprise
#17 - 2012-07-04 13:15:30 UTC
Ja'thaal Deathbringer wrote:
Hey all.

Earlier today I was looking at my Legion and I got to thinking, "This would look great with a Carthum Conglomerate skin." This lead me to think further into the idea, advanced T3's would be an interesting addition to the game. I don't know if anyone else has come up with this sort of idea, if so, I apologize.

Anyway, these hulls would be a lot more expensive than the standard T3 hull, but would take the same subsystems, and would come with certain boosts to different aspects of the ship, dependent on the manufacturer of the hull.

For example;

Khanid Innovations Legion:

5% Reduction in module heat damage per level of Amarr Strategic Cruiser. (No change to the standard hull variant)

10% Bonus to Heavy and Heavy Assault missile velocity per level of Amarr Strategic Cruiser.

JD



what you're suggesting is almost a standard hull + offensive system. this is already the case.

it also wouldn't make sense to have a "kahnid" hull as you call it above, and then put a laser offensive system.

i am not one who opposes change, i embrace it an welcome innovation. however, the concept you mention is not adding much to what is already existing. you're just combining the hull with the offensive system in one.
Crunchie Attuxors
Always Another Corporate Venture
#18 - 2012-07-04 14:44:02 UTC
I hope you understand that t3 are already advanced. This is like asking for an advanced version of a t2. It makes no sense.
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Danel Tosh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-07-04 14:50:28 UTC
Perhaps these faction T3 hulls should have a versitility trade off. Ie you use a khanid hull and your basicly limited to missile fits. granted any khanid fit legion would be vastly supperior by missile standards when compared to the conventional legion, but that ship would be limited mostly to missile setups.
xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#20 - 2012-07-04 17:37:14 UTC
Would rather see something along the line of a T3 battleship...Would be OP as **** but would like to see some ideas about this